You wanna meet the REAL Rev. Wright ???

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:55 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hal_Cone

It all started w/ a guy named James Hal Cone

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
James Hal Cone (August 5, 1938 - ) is an African-American Christian theologian in the Methodist tradition. He is one of America's best known architects of Black theology, a form of Liberation theology. He is currently the Charles Augustus Briggs Distinguished Professor of Systematic Theology at Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York.
Cone was born and raised in Arkansas and received a B.A. degree from Philander Smith College in Arkansas in 1958, a B.D. degree from Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary in 1961, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees from Northwestern University in 1963 and 1965, respectively. He taught theology and religion at Philander Smith College, Adrian College in Michigan, and beginning in 1970 at Union Theological Seminary in New York City, where he was awarded the distinguished Charles A. Briggs Chair in systematic theology in 1977.
James Cone was the first person to create a systematic Black theology. He felt that Black Christians in Northern America should not follow the "white Church", as it had failed to support them in their struggle for equal rights. Though this theme runs throughout Cone's work, his early books (Black Theology and Black Power and A Black Theology of Liberation) draw heavily on mainstream white theologians like Karl Barth (on whom Cone had written his doctoral thesis) and Paul Tillich.
In response to criticism from other black theologians (including his brother, Cecil), Cone began to make greater use of resources native to the African American Christian community for his theological work, including slave spirituals, the blues, and the writings of prominent African American thinkers like David Walker, Henry McNeal Turner, and W. E. B. Du Bois. Critiques by black women also led Cone to make consideration of gender issues more prominent in his later writings, thus paving the way for womanist theology. His theology has also been heavily influenced by Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr.
[edit]Controversy

Some of Cones quotes have drawn controversy. Barak Obama's former minister Jeremiah Wright was inspired by Cone. Although Obama has condemned some of most controversial statements of Wright as needlessly divisive and distorted, Wright's ministry is founded on the black theology that Cone helped to create

"To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." [Black Theology and Black Power, pp. 139-140].

"While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 15]

"All white men are responsible for white oppression." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 24]
"Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 40]
"If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 73]

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

PIRATECAT

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:12 PM

Yeh a black conspiratorist. White women want black men, black women have been raped by white men thats how high yellow babies are made, and blue eyes is the mark of the beast. Irish folk are cromagnoms. Barbeque contests are rigged for white folk to win. Jews all gotz the money. Rome was built by africans. Jesus was a soul baby. Hurricanes with white names always hit black towns caused by Bush. Etc etc.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

RIGHTEOUS9

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:13 PM

What's your point exactly? that blacks have had pretty valid reasons to fear and even hate the white man? That some people who established the religion were distrutful of and maybe even demonized the white man?(like we needed any help).

And that is different than christianity historically, how? How many churches preach hatred even today towards homosexuals and muslims? Are we all guilty by association then?

If you're going to try to attack Reverend Wright base the attacks on something relevant to today. Maybe I've missed some of his "scathing" diatribes, but I haven't heard anytying out of him that I disagree with yet...except the whole thing about there being a God.

In fact, representing a community that has not been so friendly to homosexuals, this man has even championed that minority.

By the way, this view is coming from a straight white male who doesn't hate himself, his race, or his country, though I am disappoiinted in it, and frankly think it should be scolded...you know, the way you do a child that you love.

Oh...you don't like to be scolded? Did he use words that made you feel bad and wet the bed when he said, "god damn america?"

If you can't take serious criticism...if you want to just attack it and comdemn it when you hear it rather than to look at its context and it possible didactic value, then you probably don't have the mental fortitude to involve yourself in the shaping of this country's government.

HERO

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:

but I haven't heard anytying out of him that I disagree with yet...By the way, this view is coming from a straight white male

So you agree that he and all blacks have every right to hate you, there is nothing wrong with that hate, and that you are personally responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to anyone, anywhere, at any time.

Thats good of you. Me, I don't know the man, so him hating me but not knowing me all because of race just don't seem neighborly. And I never owned a slave or raised my hand against anyone except folks who broke the law...and I never look at the person's demographics until AFTER I read the report and decide how I'm handling the case...age, race, gender, they just don't seem important when compared to what, when, and how for reviewing cases.

I do make great BBQ.

H

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:41 PM

Wright's most well-known rantings :

1) The Government invented AIDS in the 1970's to kill black people
2) The USA is the same as Al Qaida
3) America deserved 911....chickens came home to roost
4) White man is the devil, lower than a skunk
5) and of course...God Damn America. What a nice thing to say in a church...especially a church with a US Senator & his children sitting in it.

The ONLY way out for Obama to keep his candidacy even remotely viable is to just come out and say that Rev Wright is INSANE. Nothing less will work, and even that probably won't prevent his total collapse of support.

CANTTAKESKY

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:53 PM

What? This is what we've come to? Where a candidate might lose support because he USED to attend a church whose minister found Cone's theology inspirational? Are you serious?

I used to attend a church where they taught women were beneath men, and can't even hold enough authority over boys to teach Sunday school. I went there cause they had really good music. Then I slowly became aware of the creepy sexism and left. Does that mean on this point alone, running for office is ruled out for me?

Candidates should be judged on what they believe today, not for what their former ministers used to think. Good grief.

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Politics, as a practice, whatever its professions, has always been the systematic organization of hatreds.
--Henry Adams, The Education of Henry Adams, 1907

KIRKULES

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:18 PM

I refuse to feel any guit about slavery. My ancestors came to this county only about a hundred years ago from a country that abolished the slave trade in 1776. Obama's family is much more likely to have been involve with the slave trade than mine. His African born father's family could have been rounding up slaves from other tribes for foreign sale for a hundred years after my ancestors abolished slavery.

It was a huge mistake for Obama to fall into Hillary's trap and bring race into the contest. His popularity among whites was partially due to the image he was projecting as a uniter of races. Now he's just another black dude running for President.

And Yes, Cantakesky you would be disqualified from being President in my book. If you were an adult when you attended the sexist church and continued to go even after their beliefs were known to you. Doesn't mean you aren't a good person, just means you don't have the leadership skills required to be President. A leader is someone that stands up for their beliefs even when they are not popular in the group they are currently in.

CANTTAKESKY

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
A leader is someone that stands up for their beliefs even when they are not popular in the group they are currently in.

I stood up for them when I realized what my beliefs were. Or are potential candidates not allowed to explore values contrary to those practiced by the mainstream, even if they ultimately rejected those values they were exploring?

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If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
--Mark Twain

RIGHTEOUS9

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:59 PM

Jong, where'd you get those. I'll look them up....you know, as they appear when quoted.

not saying you're wrong...but if those were his "well known" rantings, how come they focusing on the one I mentioned?

STORYMARK

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:01 PM

Yeah, why judge a man by his own actions and words when you can crucify him for something someone he knows read.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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