Cheney says Bin Laden Innocent on 9/11
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
So by you definition any employee of Blackwater or any of the independent contractors are terrorists and are free game, and for the kid I believe his parents were dual citizens. Also your definiton seems to fit any of the resistance groups of WW2, did the US support terrorism back then ? hell my previous analogy with the movie Red Dawn being about a band of terrorists also seems to fit. The definitions being used here are so out of date and are being used so selectively they are beyond useless.
Blackwater contractors are security , not terrorists. Try to keep up. They're not Mercs who shoot civiilians or blow up markets to send some sort of social, religious or political messsage. Why are you having such a hard time w/ this ? It's rather quite simple. Same w/ Red Dawn, there the kids are fighting military, not civilians.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Those 'schools' you claim aren't run by the Federal Gov't, and it's parents sending their own unruly kids to these places, not some Federal Bureaucracy in charge of re-education.
Oh, you think so do you ?
Maybe if you'd been payin any attention you'd know a lot of em are.
10 months after scandal, problems plague Texas Youth Commission
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13,000 abuse claims in juvie centers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080302/ap_on_re_us/juvenile_detention
The worst physical confrontations can end in death. At least five juveniles died after being forcibly placed in restraints in facilities run by state agencies or private facilities with government contracts since Jan. 1, 2004.
The use of restraint techniques and devices and their too-aggressive application have long been controversial and came under intense scrutiny last year after the death of 14-year-old Martin Lee Anderson.
A grainy video taken at a Florida boot camp in January 2006 shows several guards striking the teen while restraining him. Six guards and a nurse were acquitted Oct. 12 of manslaughter charges after defense attorneys argued that the guards used acceptable tactics.
In Maryland, 17-year-old Isaiah Simmons lost consciousness and died after he was held to the floor face down at a privately owned facility that was contracted by the state. Prosecutors say the staff waited 41 minutes after the boy was unresponsive to call for help.
About Martin Lee Anderson
http://www.martinleeanderson.com/index.php
All caught on tape, mind you.
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We don't torture, and no matter how many times you suggest we do, I'll be right here, correcting you.
Then correct this.
Forced activity to the point of exhaustion, collapse, and death.
THIS, is not torture ?
And I cite that it's commonplace, with a long list of dead kids to show for it.
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It's rah rahs like me w/ my religious intolerance ( not racial hatred, that's your dept., not mine ) that has lead to our success
Some "success" - we're now the most hated country in the world, our reputation is shot, our military is broken and we're in ass-deep debt with an economy in the shitter as our entire infrastructure falls apart behind the dimwits cheerleading the brawl, there's still a big fucking hole in the ground where the twin towers used to be, and new orleans looks like a goddamn warzone.
We're it not for idiots like you who are blinded by hate, fear and intolerance, WE coulda been in charge at the U.N. instead of those third world tyrants, we coulda snookered em into handing us leadership on a silver platter, and then used the U.N. and it's forces as a hammer to enforce OUR agenda.
But no, we sent in racist maniacs like Bolton and made ourselves the laughingstock of the entire planet - my problem with folks like you involved in the world domination game isn't the fact that you're there....
It's that you are incompetent, short-sighted, and stupid.
Snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, and laid low by their own hubris and arrogance by some bunch of petty goons out in the desert who didn't even have a goddamn thing to do with 9-11...
Yeah, heck of a job, Brownie.
You ain't even competent at making your case, cause here I am dancing you in circles making you look like even MORE of a ignorant, clueless shill than you already are, while you angrily screech assertions with no basis in fact, and tons of evidence proving they are absolutely untrue.
I not only know what you'll say when I pull your string, I know how you'll say it... perhaps instead of using puny propaganda-laden feedback loops you might try experimenting with original thought for once, instead of parrotting what you are told to by folks using you and your stupidity for their own gain and enrichment.
You never do get it though, I don't mind us being bad guys - I mind us being INCOMPETENT bad guys.
-Frem
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
So by you definition any employee of Blackwater or any of the independent contractors are terrorists and are free game, and for the kid I believe his parents were dual citizens. Also your definiton seems to fit any of the resistance groups of WW2, did the US support terrorism back then ? hell my previous analogy with the movie Red Dawn being about a band of terrorists also seems to fit. The definitions being used here are so out of date and are being used so selectively they are beyond useless.
Blackwater contractors are security , not terrorists. Try to keep up. They're not Mercs who shoot civiilians or blow up markets to send some sort of social, religious or political messsage. Why are you having such a hard time w/ this ? It's rather quite simple. Same w/ Red Dawn, there the kids are fighting military, not civilians.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Wait, I finaly get it....
AURaptor is really Stephen Colbert
The handle, the Eagle thing, the brand of humor
Now I understand, you my friend are freaking hilarious... and I thought you were being serious
Great Job
The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Wait, I finaly get it....
AURaptor is really Stephen Colbert
The handle, the Eagle thing, the brand of humor
Now I understand, you my friend are freaking hilarious... and I thought you were being serious
Great Job
So, when you can't respond to my post w/ anything close to substance or challenge my facts, you play silly?
What ever helps you sleep at night.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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So, in case anynoe missed it...
Our Government doesn't take folks off the street and stow them away in work camps as they do in N.Korea. Despite Frem's odd isistance of bringing up now defunct schools for rowdy teens. 'Gov't contracts signed ' does not = being part of the Gov't. Sorry, but do please take up your pet cause in some other forum, one where it makes more sense to bring up instead of one like this, where it has no place.
To the contrary, we're NOT the most hated country in the world. There will always be a contengent of little tyrant thugs running 3rd world dictatorships who lie to their citizens and tell lies about the U.S. , but for the most part, folks like us. I fondly remember how W.Europe marched and donned silly skull costumes to protest Reagan too, back in the 80's. Hating the lone super power is just a game for some folks, nothing we can worry about. Oh, and even France's new Pres likes us, go figure !
( Why you bring "Brownie" in on this discussion is another myster. He actually didn't do such a bad job, the complete system was F'ed up when FEMA and Homeland Security were tied a the hip, under 1 roof. Meaningless sidebar.....
You mindlessly claim some sort of victory, when all you're doing is repeating baseless, debunked claims over and over again. No need to reply any further. Bolton isn't a racist , by any stretch of the imagination. He simply calls it like it is. I know you'd rather or Ambassador to the U.N. clink champaign glasses w/punks who run 3rd world nations, but he's better than that. Much better.
Oh, and no one ever claimed we went to war becasue Saddam was linked to al Qaeda. So do yourself a favor and stop making an a$$ of yourself every time you repeat that crap.
Just tryin' to help out. 
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Wipe your chin there Rap, ya gotta bit of foam dribble goin on...
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Wait, I finaly get it....
AURaptor is really Stephen Colbert
The handle, the Eagle thing, the brand of humor
Now I understand, you my friend are freaking hilarious... and I thought you were being serious
Great Job
So, when you can't respond to my post w/ anything close to substance or challenge my facts, you play silly?
What ever helps you sleep at night.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Who could possibly challenge your truthiness
The way you twist fact and change the argument to fit your reality is brilliant
and I loved your performance at the White House press dinner... truely epic
The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Who could possibly challenge your truthiness
The way you twist fact and change the argument to fit your reality is brilliant
and I loved your performance at the White House press dinner... truely epic
Only you can't cite anywhere I " twist fact " and change the argument. Hell,it's Frem who is trying to distort the issue here by trying to interject private institutions as being on par with Gov't run prison camps in China, N.Korea, etc....
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Wipe your chin there Rap, ya gotta bit of foam dribble goin on...
Your inability to respond rationally or substantively save for your vulgar inanity proves my point. You have nothing.
Thanks anyways.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, in case anynoe missed it...
Our Government doesn't take folks off the street and stow them away in work camps as they do in N.Korea.
No, our government takes folks off the streets - yes, even right here in the good ol' US-of-fuckin'-A - and stow them away as "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
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There will always be a contengent of little tyrant thugs running 3rd world dictatorships who lie to their citizens and tell lies about the U.S.
Yes, and as long as there are tin-pot dictators, there will be Republicans who will do their damnedest to keep them in power.
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Oh, and no one ever claimed we went to war becasue Saddam was linked to al Qaeda. So do yourself a favor and stop making an a$$ of yourself every time you repeat that crap.
You and Hero have *repeatedly* made just such a claim, including right here in this very forum, less than a week ago. One of you claimed that there were "ties" - and then mumbled something about "no matter how weak" - between Saddam and Al Qaeda which, in and of themselves, were enough justification for our invasion of Iraq.
Just tryin' to point you out as the liar we all know you are.
It is not those who use the term "Republican Dipshits" who are sullying the name of Republicans; it is the Republican Dipshits.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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