Cheney says Bin Laden Innocent on 9/11

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KWICKO

Monday, March 10, 2008 9:04 PM

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Eventually, you're going to have to face the facts, grow up and put away your childish delusions and silly make believe stories which adhere to your petty, faulty, hate filled political positions.

I will if you will. ;)

Obviously, it's my immaturity which most hampers me in my daily life - that and my inability to stand by and watch someone try to shovel shit down my throat.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

KWICKO

Monday, March 10, 2008 9:49 PM

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I feel so small, I can't type at an advanced level nor do I always proof read my posts. I'm an inferior human being, and therefore I must be wrong in my views, huh?

Fine. You win. UR moore intllijant than is me.

Happy now ?

Y'know, I'm fine with the occasional typo. You, however, SYSTEMATICALLY misspell or mangle the language. I'm just pointing out that, for someone who fancies himself so much smarter than the rest of us, and figures he's the only one who's right, you don't strike me as being particularly bright. Quite the opposite, in point of fact.

Yes, I *am* more intelligent than you. So get in the back seat, sit down, shut up, and do as you're told.

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But why do you make it personal towards me when talking about the fraternity pranks against some dirt bag terrorists? What is it to you ? Clearly, I can't deny crimes in Abu Ghraib were committed. But unlike what happened there under Saddam, we PUNISHED those who committed the crimes. You want to ignore that factoid, don't ya? Hmmm..wonder why.

You call them "fraternity pranks", and you ASSUME (making an ass of YOU, not of me) that they're guilty. In some Rethuglican-only-circular-logic circle jerk, you figure only the guilty would be picked up and tortured, so anyone who was tortured is by rights, guilty. So no harm, no foul.

Except that it hasn't played out that way. Some of those who were rounded up and tortured (and some of them even KIDNAPPED from foreign soil under the extraordinary rendition protocols) - anyhow, SOME of them were clearly NOT guilty. So I was asking, how would you like it if it were done to you? Or your family? You wrongly ASSUME that the US never makes mistakes, or that it's simply un-American or hateful to point them out. THAT is what makes you a small-minded little dolt.

Bored now...

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

KWICKO

Monday, March 10, 2008 10:24 PM

AwwwCrapper:

A while back, in another thread, I asked you a direct question. Remember?

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Answer this: How many tours of duty did you do in Iraq?

You never answered. You sidestepped, hoping no one would notice. I noticed, and I've waited patiently for you to regale us with your tales of the glory days of your military service.

Now, I'm one-hundred-percent sure you served in the military, because only America-haters HAVEN'T served. And I'm sure you could always re-up (military slang for reenlistment), because now, more than ever in recent memory, America NEEDS loyal, dedicated, patriotic, freedom-loving soldiers such as you (seems we've recently lost a whole bunch). And if they truly love America, love their President, and support our troops, then only someone who is a coward or hypocrite WOULDN'T be in the military right now, right?

So, answer the question: what's your military service history?

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Monday, March 10, 2008 10:40 PM

Kwicko,

How many angels can fit on the head of a pin?

VETERAN

Monday, March 10, 2008 10:58 PM

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AURaptor wrote:
Monday, March 10, 2008 05:29
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Ever notice how I never respond to AuroCraptor.
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It's clear you're incapable of doing so in an coherent, informed manner. If I were you, and made such idiotic , baseless statments as you, I'd be too cowardly to respond to me either.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

Ok, well almost never.

AURaptor, you think you're smarter than everyone on the board, but you don't even know how to debate. The best you do is set up strawman arguments or recite the party line. Failing at that you fall back on your one talent: stringing together a of list adjectives.

I like a man who grins when he fights

CANTTAKESKY

Monday, March 10, 2008 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Staffer: "They didn't do it."

Well, Vet, I thought it was funny.

Quick poll: How many here believe that Al-Qaeda is not primarily responsible for 9/11?

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A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
--Sir Winston Churchill

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:23 AM

9/11 NY AG Spitzer Blackmailed in Mafia Prostitution Ring and Resigns as Governor of 9/11 Coverup in Plea Deal to Evade 10 Years in Club Fed
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/10/emperors-club-all-about-_n_90
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http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=8368

Now we know why Spitzer made no criminal investigation of the criminals who perped 9/11, since Spitzer was renting $30,000-a-night whores from the Mafia. Spitzer is scheduled to resign at 7 pm tonight, and is facing felony indictment for conspiracy with organized crime.

Spitzer bribing Hillary Clinton:
http://hillaryclinton.com/blog/print/?id=5768

Eliot Spitzer and Hillary Clinton love female prostitutes, like Cathy O’Brien:
http://trance-formation.com

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“Mayor Giuliani — a former federal prosecutor who won notice for ‘pursuing’ the Mafia — had relatives linked to organized crime, including a mobbed-up cousin who was gunned down by FBI agents in 1977, a new book says. Lewis D’Avanzo, a son of the mayor’s uncle and a guest at Giuliani’s first wedding in 1968, was a ‘ruthless and widely feared mob associate’ who headed a massive stolen car ring, according to FBI documents and interviews detailed in Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, by Village Voice senior editor Wayne Barrett. Due in stores next week, the book sketches a largely unflattering portrait of the clan, depicting his father, Harold, as a hothead and the “muscle” behind a brother-in-law’s loansharking operation, run out of a Brooklyn bar. Along with cracking heads, it says the mayor’s father served time in state prison for a stickup, rarely held an on-the-books job and once was a gunman in a mob shootout in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. According to the book, Giuliani’s cousin Lewis D’Avanzo was known as “Steve the Blond” and listed as armed and dangerous in FBI bulletins. His criminal record included a 10-year federal sentence for the armed hijacking of a truck loaded with $240,000 worth of mercury. The book alleges that he was suspected of taking part in several murders. D’Avanzo was gunned down by the FBI in October 1977, when he tried to run down an agent after being stopped on a warrant that accused him and two associates of transporting 100 stolen luxury cars. Quoting an unnamed friend of D’Avanzo, the book describes a 1962 shootout pitting a local mobster against the mayor’s father and Leo D’Avanzo, Lewis D’Avanzo’s father. The book says Leo was later sanctioned by mob bosses for shooting at a Mafia member. Leo D’Avanzo, who was known in family circles as a black sheep, ran loansharking and gambling operations out of a Brooklyn bar where Giuliani’s father worked as a bartender. In his role as debt collector, his father ‘broke legs, smashed kneecaps, crunched noses.’ Joan Ellen D’Avanzo, a cousin who at one time lived with Giuliani when he was a youngster, became a drug addict who was beaten to death in 1973 at age 34. Her cause of death was listed as undetermined, but several family members said she was murdered.”
—Michael R. Blood, New York Daily News, “Rudy’s Kin Tied to Mob”, July 06, 2000

“The father he celebrated so often was a pathological predator. His extended family harbored a junkie, a crooked cop and a murky mob wing. He dissolved his first marriage with a lie so he could appear Catholic when he remarried. The very personal jewelry his first wife found in her bedroom wasn’t hers….”
—Wayne Barrett, Rudy!: An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Guiliani, “All in the Family: Crooks, Cops and a Junkie” (co-author of City for Sale)

Spitzer's problem is that he hired FEMALE prostitututes.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Since the word "ties" can cover any connection, however weak, Bush was in fact stating the truth.

And you were the ones who had a problem with Clinton's parsing of words and their meanings...

So it's *technically* correct, and in fact stating the truth, to say that Bush has ties to Hitler and the Third Reich, agreed?

I mean, if you're looking for SOME kind of connection, however weak, you can find it for just about anything.

And maybe you should clarify when you're talking about Al Qaeda and when you're talking about Saddam. You tend to confuse the two, just like Cheney, Bush, and the rest of those right-win nut-job dipshits.

So is it your lack of intelligence that hampers you in your daily life, or your blinkered belief that Bush always has your back. Or does one supercede the other? ;)

Pull your head out of Bush's arse, wipe off your chin (is that drool, or something worse?), and face reality: Bush is a piece of human garbage.

Mike

First of all, those aren't MY words,it comes form the site I posted, factcheck.org. You're so quick to vilify and spew hatred and venom on that which you don't agree, the 'real you' is revealed, and what a petty, ugly little man you are. Pathetic.

Second, Bush is a fine American. I have major difference w/ him on some issues, but he's still not lying scumbag who bangs his interns. Now THAT's garbage.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:29 PM

kwickie - I never side stepped any question. You asking me in ANOTHER thread? I must have missed it.

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You never answered. You sidestepped, hoping no one would notice. I noticed, and I've waited patiently for you to regale us with your tales of the glory days of your military service

Per usual, you have it wrong, assuming falsly. I never claimed to have served in the military, and thus never have claimed to serve in Iraq. But it's faulty logic to assume ONLY those who love America serve. Most who love the country don't serve. Only 5% of those eligible find their way into the military. Whether it's by choice or other reasons, thats for me to know and no concern of yours. However, that doesn't keep me or you from appreciating what the military does for us and supporting the men and women for what they do.

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You call them "fraternity pranks", and you ASSUME (making an ass of YOU, not of me) that they're guilty. In some Rethuglican-only-circular-logic circle jerk, you figure only the guilty would be picked up and tortured, so anyone who was tortured is by rights, guilty. So no harm, no foul.

Except that it hasn't played out that way. Some of those who were rounded up and tortured (and some of them even KIDNAPPED from foreign soil under the extraordinary rendition protocols) - anyhow, SOME of them were clearly NOT guilty. So I was asking, how would you like it if it were done to you? Or your family? You wrongly ASSUME that the US never makes mistakes, or that it's simply un-American or hateful to point them out. THAT is what makes you a small-minded little dolt.

Bored now...

Mike

And your default position is that these terrrorist are INNOCENT, when the fact is they were were taken off the battle field, fighting w/ our military. Your faulty logic - again - suggest I'm ok w/ torture. We don't torture. You know that, but that's besides the point. Unlike you, I don't buy into the phony Esquire articles of alleged 'victims' who claim all sorts of attrocities were done to them by the U.S. military.Meanwhile, you're mute on the savages who rape, torture and saw off the heads of truly innnocent people, all done in the name of allah. So, while OUR military is accused of making folks lie on a cold floor, the REAL Islamo-jihad terrorist are lobbing off limbs, performing ACTUAL torture acts on their captives, while we merely take pics of faux torture ( and yes, we get punished for that too ) Your misplaced and fabricated sense of indignation is sad and pathetic. Much like you.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

GINOBIFFARONI

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:56 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
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Originally posted by Veteran:
Staffer: "They didn't do it."
Well, Vet, I thought it was funny.

Quick poll: How many here believe that Al-Qaeda is not primarily responsible for 9/11?

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A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
--Sir Winston Churchill

I believe that it is possible that Al-Qaeda didn't do it.

Before the invasion of Afghanistan, the Taliban were open to the extradition of BinLaden, after a hearing where evidence to his guilt would be examined... and then that extradition would be to a third party such as the ICC, because it was believed a fair trial in the US wasn't possible.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1539468.stm

http://www.zmag.org/Sustainers/Content/2004-10/13rai.cfm

Then again the videos of Bin Laden, also have been examined by experts and found to have been edited/altered. When asked about this the US gov has admitted to doing this for national security issues.

So, with this sort of evidence... they let OJ off

why not Osama

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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