Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles
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UPDATED: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:50
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So far I've only caught one and a half episodes of this show (not the premier) but it's just not catching me. I'm giving it a shot for Summer, as I would a show starring any of our BDHs, but so far it's a miss for me. None of the characters are working with my conceptions of them and the show keeps throwing wierd and confusing things at me.
My personal irritant is Sarah. These are supposed to be post T2 characters and that Sarah was intelligent, tough, physically intimdating, and, at times, downright scary. Where did that go? I guess commando Sarah was too intimidating and not pretty enough for a TV audience.
John, so far, has left little impression for me except that of an annoying and useless twerp.
Here's hoping it improves.
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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.
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My personal irritant is Sarah. These are supposed to be post T2 characters and that Sarah was intelligent, tough, physically intimdating, and, at times, downright scary. Where did that go? I guess commando Sarah was too intimidating and not pretty enough for a TV audience.
John, so far, has left little impression for me except that of an annoying and useless twerp.
Yea.. Sarah is a big departure from what she should have been after the events of T2. She should be MUCH tougher and harder than what they are showing. I can BELIEVE that the Sarah from T2 could fight off a terminator (even the T1000), but I just can't see this Sarah lasting 2 minutes.
And you would think that John, who thought his mom was crazy, but realized she was right after the events of T2 would "get it" by now.. but all he has done is been kind of a whiny brat who just "can't take it anymore" and expects his mom to take care of it? If this is the guy who is supposed to lead all of humanity.. they've got a LONG way to go.. and they better show us something fast. Heck.. wasn't it John's idea to take out Miles Dison and blow up Cyberdyne in T2? I can't see this John doing anything but whine.
What would have been better than the "jumper" at school.. would have been to see some bullies picking on some kid at school and John going to step in to try to defend the person. Cameron seeing this and at first trying to stop him from getting involved or getting hurt, but then calculating that John can't be protected from everything.. and as long as his life isn't in danger he needs to learn to fight. So she lets him take on the bullies.. and not opening up a can of whoop a&& or anything.. but at least we see him holding his own against 2 or 3 opponants while Cameron calmly stands by making sure none of them pull out a gun/knife or anything. That would have been 100 times better.
The whole jumper thing was a LONG set up for a two second payoff of a discussion about being a hero? Lame.
About the only thing I have liked that John has done or said so far is when he told Cameron "I should have figured the hot girl wouldn't really be interested in the wierdo". Mostly because I have probably thought that 100 times myself.
People have posted many theories about Cameron.. but I haven't seen this yet. I am beginning to be on board with the idea that maybe Cameron wasn't built by Skynet2 and reprogrammed by the resistance... but that she was maybe BUILT by the resistance. That could be an interesting twist IF they have a good solid idea behind it.. but so far there hasn't been too many solid ideas... but I will keep watching for now.
Smaug..
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I agree with most everyone here about the third episode. They need to get some focus to the series and fast. Right now there are way to many things being thrown at the viewer and we have no real reason to care.
There's 1999 terminator
There's FBI guy
There's Sarah's old flame
There's skynet
There are resistance fighters running around
There's some odd girl at John's new high school
There's the Dyson widow
There's Cameron being a "different model" of terminator and that other terminator not recognizing what type of model she is
There's just way too much going on right now and the show isn't doing a good job of engaging the viewer.
I'll still watch another week but I'm not really looking forward to it much.
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Smaug......I think you're being a bit too hard on the kid.
It was not his idea to kill Dyson, it was Sarah's, and then she changed her mind at the last minute.
John was a whiny little puke throughout T2 and was a little less of a whiny little puke in T3. He doesn't "get it" until he and Kate Brewster are in the nuclear bunker and the missles start flying. Then he grabs the command microphone when their "base" is hailed by some desperate civil defense person. That's the moment he becomes a man, and accepts his destiny.
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Summer is on the TV guide cover. Oh, those other people in the show are too, but who cares:)
Bad_karma
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Quote:That may be true but he was rescourceful whiny little puke. He made himself useful and gave the impression of being at least somewhat self sufficient. I'm not getting that in the show.
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John was a whiny little puke throughout T2 and was a little less of a whiny little puke in T3.
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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
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Originally posted by Kayna:Quote:That may be true but he was rescourceful whiny little puke. He made himself useful and gave the impression of being at least somewhat self sufficient. I'm not getting that in the show.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
John was a whiny little puke throughout T2 and was a little less of a whiny little puke in T3.
Well, like I said before, John Connor is NOT going to be a man with leadership and fighting skills UNTIL he gets into that command center bunker with his future wife Kate Brewster.
In T2 the only example I remember of John being "resourceful" is when he hot-wires an ATM machine. In T3 John is painfully wounded in the leg by the Termanatrix, and he actually picks up a machine gun and destroys other attacking machines....he's getting tougher & stronger all the time. Kate will also help him because she is one tough gal......smart & fearless. At that point she's lost far more than John has, and I believe she is what drives and trains him to be prepared for his role in history. He's a RELUCTANT hero. He really doesn't want to be what he knows he's destined to become. I'm not expecting anything from this kid in SCC, except maybe to occasionally comb his hair...actually I think there was one scene so far in the 3 episodes where he had groomed hair.
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Something else they need to do, which they should have done in the pilot.. is LET Summer fight. I mean you have this actress that can fight in such an elegant way (as proved by Serenity) unlike just about any fighting style you typical see in TV or movies, and what do they do? She grabs the other terminator and does the typical let's bash each other through walls to show how strong we are. Which really isn't a fighting style.. the "style" of the T800 is just brute strenght. The T1000 actually started to have a "style" that was a little more elegant and utilized his abilities. Like being thrown face first against a wall and rematerializing 180 degrees so that he doesn't have to turn around.
Why would anyone make a teenage sized terminator.. only for her to have the same brute stregth fighting style as the big tank like T800s? Then when they do fight they show the fast paced MTV style editing that more or less takes the place of any kind of chorographed fight. I understand for deadline and budget.. a lot of fighting is probably going to take place this way. But it all happened so fast and furious with the editing that you could hardly tell what was going on. Maybe Summer got a couple of good kicks in there.. but you couldn't even tell.
What they need to do, and should have shown in the pilot, is utilize Summer's graceful fighting ability to show that while she may be super strong compared to a human, she may not have quite the brute streght of the T800 tank, but has speed, grace, and ability FAR beyond any terminator we have seen to date which more than makes up for the lower brute strenght.
Like it would be cool, and not very expensive F/X wise, for her to have almost super speed. Maybe not quite bullet time speed.. but still super human. Like maybe she can run at 100mph. Or maybe she's fast enought to avoid almost any punch a t800 could throw at her.. but not fast enough by a long shot to dodge a bullet. SOMETHING!
I know I sound like I am really bashing the show, but I really want it to succeed. Not just for Summer's sake, but because I loved the first two terminator's so much. The story of the first terminator movie is probably one of the better Sci-fi stories ever written. So good in fact that a 5-7is million dollar budget (which is NOTHING by hollywood standards), with no name actors (even Arnold was pretty much a no-name at the time) generated one of the better Sci-fi movies of all time.
Say what you will about James Cameron.. the boy KNOWS how to make a sequel. He knows that a sequel has to be a natural progression of the story. It doesn't HAVE to be bigger.. just a good story that is a natural progession. The bigger part of his sequals just has to do with more money to do it with rather than some insane idea the movie MUST be bigger. And if there is no natural progression of the story... then don't make it.
But anyway... I really want this show to succeed, and it's not that I HATE it at all.. it's just that I am so very disappointed in that there really could be something there.. but they seem to be missing almost every target.
Smaug...
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Just to let you guys know, they're putting this show in a separate timeline... and by Terminator Canon it'd put this show in the sixth timeline... it originally was supposed to completely set right after T2... but it was scrapped.
As for the show... it is all over the place but I find that is how most serials start nowadays, Prison Break never found it's wheels until halfway in to the first season. Take a look at the first Heroes episode... that was unbelievably all over the place and didn't really tie anything up. The idea is to keep you in the dark until they're ready to progress those storylines.
As for Cameron, her learning process is by mimicry all of her human interaction is by trying to copy what everyone is doing... so with that stated... I think she might just go out for Gymnastics in school and it will translate to her fighting... like muscle mimicry.
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Originally posted by RazgrizDemon7:
As for the show... it is all over the place but I find that is how most serials start nowadays, Prison Break never found it's wheels until halfway in to the first season. Take a look at the first Heroes episode... that was unbelievably all over the place and didn't really tie anything up. The idea is to keep you in the dark until they're ready to progress those storylines.
So shows that hit the ground running like Firefly get canceled while shows that start with no direction get to hang around to see if they might find their way?
The only thing I can add beyond what previous poster's have mentioned is that the whole connection to building the atomic bomb was lame too. It seemed the only purpose was so that, at the end of the episode, Sarah could say "we're all bastards." Even then, it didn't make any sense because she
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didn't even kill the guy. What's to keep him from rebuilding his computer?
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Anyway, the show is extremely bad.
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