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Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles

POSTED BY: Gapsule
UPDATED: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:50
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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:29 PM

Are the full eps online? I looked (briefly) and didn't see them...

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:40 PM

Agreed that the second episode was better than the first. Overall.. I am enjoying it.. but will reserve judgement until after I see more clearly where they are going to go with the show.

I hope that OVERALL they keep the show rather dark. I don't mind them dealing with the mundane things like going to school, working, struggling with the crap that life has thrown them, etc. But overall.. I think the show need to keep a dark tone with just a glimpse of hope every now and then. But overall.. keep the tone of they have to watch their back every second of every day. 24 has been able to pull off that intensity for 5-6 years... so it can be done.


Ok.. now on to a few nit picks and canon flaws that are just bugging me. Hopefully some of these are not "flaws" but things that they are holding back on to answer later... but I somehow doubt it.

1) Agreed with the earlier post. What the heck happend to the headless terminator and the all the rest of the time travel equiptment that was left back in 1999? I mean WTF? I mean like NO ONE investigated to see what the freak happened and just left the bank as is?? So this terminator was just left sitting there for 8 years and no one noticed? What I THOUGHT they were going to do is since Summer didn't seem to know how Skynet got built (the second time), is that when the authoraties went into the bank vault to investigate what the frack happened.. The would find all this equiptment, including a headless terminator. After finding all this, the timeline was suddenly going to change and THAT was what was going to be the new trigger that would eventually lead to the develeopment of Skynet. Just like the first terminator (Arnold in T1) lead Miles Dison to the develeopment of the first Skynet. So by jumping forward into the future and revealing to the 1999 authoraties all this high tech equipment that was left behind.. they inadvertantly CAUSED the creating of the SECOND Skynet! I thought that would have been brilliant.. but now with the headless terminator showing up mysteriously in 2007.. doesn't look like they are going that route. Missed oportunity!! And a BIG one!!!

2) How did the terminator's head travel through time? It was already badly damaged (as in a lot of it's skin was ripped), plus shortly after the time travel.. it had NO skin. They have clearly shown time and time again that only ORGANIC material or something covered in organic material can travel through time. So how did the head travel through time?

3) They have also very clearly stated that travel through time is PAINFUL!! Terminators don't feel pain.. but of course humans do. Yet Sarah and John showed NO pain after there time travel! What gives? All it would have taken is that Summer after standing up.. to look down and see Sarah and John in pain.. that she pickes them both up over her shoulders and takes off running. Sloppy oversight in my opinion.

4) I can understand not wanting to get into scientific babbletalk.. but all Sarah can do is ask Summer if the gun is nuclear? And Summer says "Not really"? COME ON!! They mised the PERFECT line.. what Summer should have said is "It's a plasma rifle.. in the 40 watt range"!!

5) I'm sorry.. but the "Class dismissed" line from the T800 style terminator.. was clearly out of character! I know they are trying to throw in a few Arnold like one-liners from T2.. but remember.. Arnold only started to do that AFTER his was switched out of "read only" mode. If you remember Skynet only sends out terminators in "read only" mode because it doesn't want them to "learn" or at least think for themselves.. just accomplish their mission. ONLY after being switched out of read only mode.. did John start to teach the T800 (Arnold) to "lighten up".. which is where the attempts at humor began. Heck.. he couldn't even SMILE for god's sake! So they have clearly shown that ANY terminator that we have seen to date.. is 1000% focused on it's mission.. and that's ALL IT DOES!! So much so that ieven though it may "look" human.. it

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:00 PM

I concur with most of your nitpicks, but concerning:

6) The way I interpreted it is that the head is remotely controlling the body, not that the body can see and function on its own.


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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:16 PM

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6) The way I interpreted it is that the head is remotely controlling the body, not that the body can see and function on its own.


I could see that.. except then how can the head "see" to tell the body what to do? Wouldnt' the body just walk directly towards the head bumping into things along the way?

The whole thing seems silly.. I have to stand by that it would have been much better to leave the endoskelton (AND HEAD) back in 1999 but it doesn't work after being hit by the 40watt plasma rifle . That endoskeleton AND the time travel equiptment being the new trigger for Skynet2. Sometime in 2007 (by SURE coincidence ) a reasearcher repairs the terminator (not knowing exactly what it is or what it's mission is) and reactivates it.. reaseracher goes missing along with the T800. The new company (Cyberdyne 2) chalks it up to espionage which ACCERLATES the building of Skynet 2 because the government is afraid of a foriegn power getting ahold of this technology. Cyberdyne 2 of course is covering up the endoskeleton comming back to life and killing the reasearcher (which would be caught all on security cameras) for fear of the goverment pulling the plug on Skynet 2.

There.. I fixed it for them... MUCH BETTER!!

Smaug..

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:48 PM

Speaking of nitpicking did anyone else see this? It really isn’t a big deal but I made mention of it to my wife as I watched the first episode Sunday night.
Now in the original Terminator I would place Sara Conner’s age at about mid to early 20s. Linda Hamilton just looked to be about that. In TSCC John Conner looks to be 16 or 17 and stretching it he could be 15. There is a scene where information is brought up about Sara (lena Headey) on a computer screen and the info to the right reads : Female 33. That would put Sara at the age of 18 at the oldest when she met up with Reese. Linda Hamilton was a young hottie in T1 but I don’t think she was that young. Maybe I just missed something. She should be closer to 40 or shouldn’t I be thinking “Terminator 1: Kyle Reese; cradle robber from the future”?
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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:45 PM

Does anybody know what the ratings have been so far?

Is our Summer on her way to Superstardom with a smash hit show?

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:39 PM

Sunday night's ratings were very high, approximately 18.3 million viewers, but I have been unable to find reports about last night's ep. I wouldn't be too quick to celebrate the seemingly good news about the pilot's reception though, considering it was the only new scripted show in it's timeslot, and it aired immediately following a very highly rated football game. They also promoted it very heavily during the game.


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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Sunday night's ratings were very high, approximately 18.3 million viewers, but I have been unable to find reports about last night's ep. I wouldn't be too quick to celebrate the seemingly good news about the pilot's reception though, considering it was the only new scripted show in it's timeslot, and it aired immediately following a very highly rated football game. They also promoted it very heavily during the game.


Thanks! I agree about not getting too optimistic.

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:18 PM

Concerning Sarah's age in the various films, and now the series. Linda Hamilton was 27-28 at the time of The Terminator, depending on when it was actually filmed. If the film was set in '84 (when it was released) we have to assume Sarah was no more than 19. She was away from home, living in the big city with a roommate, so she has to have been out of high school. If she was still 19 when John was born then she would have been approximately 30 in T2 (released in '91 but supposedly set in '95). That would put her at age 34 in '99 when the series begins. I suppose the file the FBI agent was looking at just hadn't been recently updated, since it showed her age as 33.

Lena Headey is 34 currently, so that makes her right for the role (age-wise at least). Thomas Dekker is 4-5 years older than his character is supposed to be, but it is typical that teenagers are played by twenty-somethings all the time.

A sidenote about Linda. I discovered that she and I share birthdays (the day that is, I'm six years older).


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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by zzetta13:
Now in the original Terminator I would place Sara Conner’s age at about mid to early 20s.


I just re-watched the first two films Sunday afternoon, so this is fresh in my head:

Early in T2, in the scene that introduces Sarah, Dr. Silberman is giving her history to his colleagues as he does his rounds, and lists her age as 29. One of the cops that comes to question her about the shooting at the mall, who shows her the surveillance photos of Arnold, says that the events of T1 happened in 1984. T2 is set in 1995, making her 18 in '84, 19 when John was born a year later, and John 10 during T2.

But like Gapsule said further up the thread, the timeline is fairly wonky, especially when you try to factor in the touchstones given for it in T3. Going back to T1 and looking at Sarah (not physically, but where she is in her life), she certainly seems more like someone in her early-to-mid-'20s than an 18-year-old, but what the hell. I guess it's best not to obsess over those things and just sit back and enjoy the movies/TV show...

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