Israelis Create Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Sunday, October 19, 2025 12:43
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Why is he the one that is being bonkers? Just a question here? From his standpoint he's the owner and from yours you are. Depending on point of view you are both right. So why is his view bonkers? Surely it can be no more bonkers than yours?
Was in reference to his refusal to negotiate, not his viewpoint.
-F
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
Why is he the one that is being bonkers? Just a question here? From his standpoint he's the owner and from yours you are. Depending on point of view you are both right. So why is his view bonkers? Surely it can be no more bonkers than yours?
Was in reference to his refusal to negotiate, not his viewpoint.
-F
Well in the end you both claim absolute rights to the same thing, so unless you plan to cohabit or timeshare I'm assuming that the negociation would involve someone buying the other out, which works only if you live in a society that places a monitory value on things. If your society doesnt, if this is scared lands not saleable at any price then there could be a problem. Within it's context it's no more bonkers than yours.
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"His "answer" is to encourage new generations of Arabs, Jews, and Christians to learn together and play together, so that when they grow up, they are less likely to kill each other."
Sort of a new Medina Compact, started with kids not old enough to have been taught to hate each other - not a bad idea, although I'm not sure how he'd pull it off.
I try to point out to folks emotionally invested in hating one side or the other.. two things.
1. They're ALL the Children of Ibrihim/Abraham, this makes them "brothers".
2. All THREE beliefs have some strong words about fratricide.
How they rationalize around that, just plain escapes me.
-Frem
While not a perfect document, the Compact of Medina shows that historically the three faiths can and HAVE gotten along.
http://www.constitution.org/cons/medina/con_medina.htm
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Point acknowledged -
I am just of the opinion that anyone who prefers NOT to negotiate when negotiation is offered, knowing the outcome in that case is likely violence... isn't quite right in the head.
But that's just my opinion.
-F
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Palistinians had their land took from them- in recent, living memory- and they deserve to get some back, period.
How peeps cannot see this is just lack of logic skills.
Or meanness.
Ehud Barack and Bill Clinton offered Arafat exactly what you say the Palestinians "deserve" and Arafat turned it down. The reason he turned it down is because it's not land they want, they want to kill all the Jews or remove them from the region.
F'in A!...100% CORRECT!!!!!!!!!
Good to know that many, if not most here, are sane, smart people who don't draw moral equivalencies on this issue. And for Siggy Heil to use the Warsaw Ghetto reference really indicates how hopelessly demented and obtusely fucked-up some idiots truly are.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Point acknowledged -
I am just of the opinion that anyone who prefers NOT to negotiate when negotiation is offered, knowing the outcome in that case is likely violence... isn't quite right in the head.
But that's just my opinion.
-F
It's only going to be violent because you've decided to defend your view with violence, there would be no need for negociation or violence if you chose to just give up which again is the same for both of you.
This is not to say that you should give up just pointing out that this will escallate to violence only if you defend your position with violence not because the negociation itself didn't work.
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Jongstraw....
Just a quick question. Are you jewish? Is this why you insist on taking such a personal offense against anyone disagreeing with Israel?
It might help to have a better discourse with you if people understood your motivations....
How 'bout you take your "motivation understanding need" and stick it where the sun don't shine? Hope that helps clear things up for ya.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
not a bad idea, although I'm not sure how he'd pull it off.
Well, not without problems. But at least he's trying something besides throwing bombs, ya know?
Quote:Precisely why his book is called "Blood Brothers."
1. They're ALL the Children of Ibrihim/Abraham, this makes them "brothers".
2. All THREE beliefs have some strong words about fratricide.
How they rationalize around that, just plain escapes me.
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You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.
--Robert Heinlein, Logic of Empire (1941)
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Quote:I’m glad you finally figured that out, now maybe you’ll shut up about the “founding” of Israel. But it has nothing to do with what I said. You have this naïve view that Israel should treat the Palestinian territories as a “foreign Power?” But what good would that do? Evidently you can’t think that far ahead. Because if Israel treated the Palestinian territories as a “foreign power,” they would be doing the same thing they’re doing now. Defending themselves from invasion by Hamas suicide bombers and rockets.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Finn- the whole "They started it" belongs in kindergarten.
Quote:The part where it was Palestinian land. There was no nation of Palestine. It was the Ottoman Empire, which collapsed following defeat in WWI and fell into British and French control. The British, in 1921, then created the first Palestinian nation of Jordan since Biblical times, while reserving one fifth of the Palestinian Mandate under British control and opened to immigration. But I suppose it’s easier for lazy people to buy into this moronic argument that Israel “stole” land, and when confronted, deny the “they started it” argument.
Originally posted by SignyM:
What part of "England gave Palestinian land ... land that was not theirs to give... to the Zionists. And the Palestinians didn't roll over and accept it" do you fail to understand?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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"If a Wyandot or Huron native wanted his home back which included your present day house, would you give it back?"
Well, Canada ceded a large portion of land to the Innuit. It's called Nunavut. So I guess the answer is - some people do that kind of thing.
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