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Israelis Create Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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If a Wyandot or Huron native wanted his home back which included your present day house, would you give it back?

Actually had to think on that a bit... yanno..

I believe I would invite him to dinner and discuss it between ourselves, privately.

PEOPLE can solve just about everything, Governments are notoriously unable to solve almost anything.

But that's my take on it.
YMMV

-F




What happens if he still wants it back though? Not everything can be negotiated, especially if people have a deep long term relationship with the land.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
or are they ONLY good as useful idiots for killing Israeli women & children?


It was a bad time for everybody, Rambo.

Trautmanisall

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:22 PM

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"Democratically elected"...ha ha ha..just like Saddam used to get 99.9% of the vote? Very democratic I'm sure. Fucking Hamas murderers terrorize their own people. They force children...fucking children to carry out their suicide murders...some children have been caught crying for their mommies before they blow up Israeli kids in a pizzeria. All their Arab "brothers" don't do jack shit to help them, and they're all the ones that caused the bad situation for the Palestinians in the first place. Before that Arafat STOLE all the fucking money that was EVER sent to help these sad helpless people. They should all just walk into Egypt as they're doing, and rest into Syria...let's see what their fellow Muslims do for them....or are they ONLY good as useful idiots for killing Israeli women & children?
And here we have Jongsstraw doing his best imitation of a Xtian Jihadist... and doing a damn fine job of it, too.



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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:15 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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"Democratically elected"...ha ha ha..just like Saddam used to get 99.9% of the vote? Very democratic I'm sure. Fucking Hamas murderers terrorize their own people. They force children...fucking children to carry out their suicide murders...some children have been caught crying for their mommies before they blow up Israeli kids in a pizzeria. All their Arab "brothers" don't do jack shit to help them, and they're all the ones that caused the bad situation for the Palestinians in the first place. Before that Arafat STOLE all the fucking money that was EVER sent to help these sad helpless people. They should all just walk into Egypt as they're doing, and rest into Syria...let's see what their fellow Muslims do for them....or are they ONLY good as useful idiots for killing Israeli women & children?

And here we have Jongsstraw doing his best imitation of a Xtian Jihadist... and doing a damn fine job of it, too.


Right again a-hole...but not quite as good as the job you're doing as an idiot terrorist lover. The only people in the world who don't know or cannot see the truth in that situation are Jew-haters, terrorists, and the insane.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:30 PM

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The only people in the world who don't know or cannot see the truth in that situation are Jew-haters, terrorists, and the insane.
Enough with the imitation bigotry already!

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:30 PM

Fletch,

Big difference between trying, and failing...
And failing to try.

Sure, some things can't, some folks won't, ain't no excuse for not even tryin.

Isreals actions put me of mind of Patiences actions during the Mal-Patience showdown in Serenity, he gave her EVERY chance to do the right thing, but she wanted what she wanted, and be damned to them in the way.

They can sort it however the hell they like, really, I just wish the hell the FedGov wasn't extorting from my paycheck to finance it.

THAT pisses me off.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:44 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
They can sort it however the hell they like, really, I just wish the hell the FedGov wasn't extorting from my paycheck to finance it.


Well said. See, this point can be made without resorting to namecalling or citing Nazi Zionist Conspiracy.

Now me, I disagree. Like Frem I don't like them taking my money to finance this. However, I see the US commitment to Isreal to be very important to American interests and character, especially since it was the United States that pushed the whole 'creation of Isreal' business through after it had been sitting on the shelf at the League of Nations since 1918.

Looking at the decision, it seems leaders of the time, despite misgivings and reservations and a natural anti-semitic bias felt compelled to act because of what happened to the Jews in Europe. Many felt something was owed and there was a fear that without the protections of a soveriegn Jewish state the chance of a continuation and compounding of the tragedy (by Stalin) was a strong possibility, one not so easily corrected or prevented.

Perhaps it might be wise for some of you to read Truman's thoughts on the subject.

H

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:14 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Fletch,

Big difference between trying, and failing...
And failing to try.

Sure, some things can't, some folks won't, ain't no excuse for not even tryin.



Completely agree but if the indian guy essentially says he wants it back and cant be bargained with what would YOU do? Whould you accept th essential validity of his claim and give him his land back or would you defend what you see as your property?

Indian land was taken by the US government and given to settlers. You have stated in the past that you disagree with things like eminent domain. If you do then wasn't any land west of the 13 colonies taken illegally and shouldn't the indians get their land back?

Kinda curious.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:31 PM

Jongstraw....

Just a quick question. Are you jewish? Is this why you insist on taking such a personal offense against anyone disagreeing with Israel?

It might help to have a better discourse with you if people understood your motivations....

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:02 PM

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Indian land was taken by the US government and given to settlers. You have stated in the past that you disagree with things like eminent domain. If you do then wasn't any land west of the 13 colonies taken illegally and shouldn't the indians get their land back?
Yes it was taken illegally, and usually at the point of a gun. But how do you right old wrongs (like slavery) when the current population had nothing to do with old grievances? (For example, nobody from my family was here before 1900, so....) This is a real question and bears directly on the current problem.


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