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Israelis Create Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:46 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yes. And Israel needs to recognize a Palestinian state, treat it as a foreign power, and give back the land it stole in 1948 and 1967. (The land the England took from the Palestinians in 1918 is a lost cause already.)


Say there was an anti-american faction in Mexico who wanted Texas back. They continually lob missles into the U.S. and the Mexican government seems unable or unwilling to stop this faction. Would it be prudent to close the border and try to put pressure on the Mexican governmnet to stop these attacks? Should the U.S. just give Texas back and hope that the violence will cease?



Israel is a bully. No wonder the Palestinians hate them so much.

Israel constantly does stuff like this, but where is the outcry?

Where is the mention of the suffering of an entire nation (Palestine) when Israel creates situations like this?

As to the Mexican/American discourse.... This is actually a good point. As most any red-blooded American would say "The hell with this, lets invade!"
However....The situation is different. A lot different.

The Israelis are occupying land that was gifted to them by other foreign "bully" powers.

Its too late to give the land back. It would just spur Hammas and the like to try and gain more.

So we have this situation:

-Israel didn't have a right to exist in the first place, but it does now exist. We can't relocate the Israelis to someplace where they wouldnt bother anyone. (The Antarctic perhaps?) So they are there to stay.

- The Palestinians want their land back. But they won't get it. Maybe parts of Gaza, but thats about all. Some will continue to blow themselves up, fire rockets ect in a vain attempt to strike a blow against Israel.

- So now what? 2 states? Some in both camps will continue to carry on guerilla ops against each other. The fighting will never end.

As Americans, I think we need to seriously consider if this is really our problem. Is it worth the money and time we throw at it?

Personally, I think we should cut off all foreign aid. Wait until both sides run out of American money, and let them come to us. Tell them that relief and aid will start again, once there is a truce declared and peace has lasted for no less than one year.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:48 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Lemme get this straight, Finn ?

Someone invades YOUR land, claims it as their own, and when you try to take it back now you're "invading" their country ?

When does that make sense ?

-F


If a Wyandot or Huron native wanted his home back which included your present day house, would you give it back?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:56 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Israel is a bully. No wonder the Palestinians hate them so much.

Israel constantly does stuff like this, but where is the outcry?

Where is the mention of the suffering of an entire nation (Palestine) when Israel creates situations like this?


And who voted Hamas into power?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:00 PM

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Say there was an anti-american faction in Mexico who wanted Texas back.
And say that in the interests of world convenience, Russia decides to "give Texas back". Now say that American Texans fight the Mexican occupation of their land, and Mexico builds a wall around Texas and starves them out....

Finn- the whole "They started it" belongs in kindergarten. In fact, ENGLAND started it in their "Palestinian Mandate" in 1918 and Zionists pushed it forward by breaking the immigration limit by hundreds of thousands of people. Or perhaps you haven't read anything of the founding of Israel? Apparently not, or you wouldn't even have started that stupid, stupid argument.
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And who voted Hamas into power?
Strangely, the people of Gaza. I should call you BigDamnKnow-nothing, 'cause really... you don't.


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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:20 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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And who voted Hamas into power?
Strangely, the people of Gaza. I should call you BigDamnKnow-nothing, 'cause really... you don't.


I know Palestinians voted Hamas into power.
I believe foreign nations made it clear that a vote for Hamas meant less or no foreign aid so in effect, they made their bed...

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:28 PM

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I believe foreign nations made it clear that a vote for Hamas meant less or no foreign aid so in effect, they made their bed...
Yeah so much for democracy in the Middle East, eh? But I'm not talking about "foreign aid". I'm talking about Israel blocking food from an entire walled-in population. Gee, where have I heard that story before?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:32 PM

As a point of curiosity, of the people posting in this thread, how many of you have lived or are currently living in Israel, Gaza or Egypt?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:38 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yeah so much for democracy in the Middle East, eh?


If Al Qaeda or the Taliban were in the running of the next Afghanistan election, would you have a problem with that? What if the Nazi party ran candidates in the next German election? Even if elected, do you want a country being run by a party who openly state genocide as their number one priority?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:50 PM

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If Al Qaeda or the Taliban were in the running of the next Afghanistan election, would you have a problem with that? What if the Nazi party ran candidates in the next German election?
I don't think we should be limiting who runs. After all, even we've got a seriously nutty religious zealot running for prez, neh? And his agenda goes directly against our Constitution. (Not that I'm sayin' your prejudiced against other religions or anything.) And if a radical party garners a large vote, that means there're some serious unaddressed problems.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

- So now what? 2 states? Some in both camps will continue to carry on guerilla ops against each other. The fighting will never end.


I say we nuke the site from orbit- only way to be sure.

Hicksisall

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