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Israelis Create Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza

POSTED BY: SignyM
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:00 PM

Nothing like building a wall around a whole bunch of ethnically different people and then slowly starving them to death, eh?

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At least 50,000 people poured from Gaza into Egypt on Wednesday to buy food and fuel after Palestinians blew holes in the border wall, according to the Egyptian Foreign Ministry. The exodus came after Israel closed all its Gaza border crossings Friday to punish Gaza's Hamas leadership following days of rocket attacks on southern Israel.



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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:37 PM

Question for you Signy,
were you one of the advocates of partitioning Iraq into three religion based areas? Not saying you wanted to starve anyone per se, just let all three fend for themselves right?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:43 PM

Yes. And Israel needs to recognize a Palestinian state, treat it as a foreign power, and give back the land it stole in 1948 and 1967. (The land the England took from the Palestinians in 1918 is a lost cause already.)

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:16 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yes. And Israel needs to recognize a Palestinian state, treat it as a foreign power, and give back the land it stole in 1948 and 1967. (The land the England took from the Palestinians in 1918 is a lost cause already.)

There’s already a Palestinian State which Israel recognizes. If you’re talking about a Palestinian State among the disputed territories in Israel well treating that as a foreign power would be declaring war on it, after it invades Israel with Hamas suicide bombers and barrages Israel with Hamas rockets, which would end with Israeli occupation. So exactly how is that different?



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:26 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yes. And Israel needs to recognize a Palestinian state, treat it as a foreign power, and give back the land it stole in 1948 and 1967. (The land the England took from the Palestinians in 1918 is a lost cause already.)


Say there was an anti-american faction in Mexico who wanted Texas back. They continually lob missles into the U.S. and the Mexican government seems unable or unwilling to stop this faction. Would it be prudent to close the border and try to put pressure on the Mexican governmnet to stop these attacks? Should the U.S. just give Texas back and hope that the violence will cease?

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:30 PM

Best put on an asbestos suit there, after pointing out that obvious parallel, given how folks react to me or Jack doing it.

-F

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:36 PM

Lemme get this straight, Finn ?

Someone invades YOUR land, claims it as their own, and when you try to take it back now you're "invading" their country ?

When does that make sense ?

-F

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:40 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Say there was an anti-american faction in Mexico who wanted Texas back. They continually lob missles into the U.S. and the Mexican government seems unable or unwilling to stop this faction. Would it be prudent to close the border and try to put pressure on the Mexican governmnet to stop these attacks? Should the U.S. just give Texas back and hope that the violence will cease?

Also we shouldn't forget that in this analogy the Mexican Government would have to be a faction involved in the attacks. The Gaza Strip Government is lead by Hamas, a Palestinian terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:44 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Lemme get this straight, Finn ?

Someone invades YOUR land, claims it as their own, and when you try to take it back now you're "invading" their country ?

When does that make sense ?

It doesn’t, which is the problem here. Israel didn’t invade in 1948 - it was invaded. And in 1967, Egypt, Jordan and Syria provoked war with Israel. Israel would have been perfectly fine with its territory had it been left alone, but it wins territory in defensive wars and you think they should give it back. So yes, when does that make sense?



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:45 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The Gaza Strip Government is lead by Hamas, a Palestinian terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel.


It should be noted that since completion of the wall the number and severity of terrorist attacks from Gaza has dropped dramatically.

I also note for the record that Gaza borders Egypt, so a portion of the wall was built with Egyption straw.

H

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