Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles

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ETHAN

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:33 PM

All you nerds just forget racking your brains... trying to make sense of a time-traveling storyline is an oxymoron. Time travel is impossible and contradictory to begin with.

Time is a relative measurement measuring rates of change. There is no record of a past or future you can visit apart from the present. Ironicaly it took a silly pedestrian scifi movie like Galaxy Quest to grasp the truth which is in order to recreate the past you need a matter reorganizer. A third grader could tell you a lump of dung in the past my end up contributing to the very important make-up of parts of your body in the present. A matter reorganizer would have to deconstuct any parts belonging to you into it's past state in order to recreate the past. Anything in the present would be destroyed to recreate the past including you and the matter reorganizer itself!

So to all you geeks moaning about the inconsistencies and the destruction of your precious Terminator canon there you have it. Even a dumbass Tim Allen movie like Galaxy Quest out classes the so called James Cameron masterpiece when it comes to scifi sophistication. So how does your canon taste now? Mwahahaha!

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:52 PM

Feel better now Ethan?
Just for the record...I'm a GEEK and I LOVE Galaxy Quest and I LOVE all the Terminator movies. I also like to rub oatmeal all over my face sometimes too.

I find nothing "pedestrian" about Galaxy Quest ( pedestrian means average, common...right?) so tell me what has ever been like Galaxy Quest that makes it pedestrian?

And honestly, you don't really know jack squat about time travel...or at least don't know any more than anybody else, and likely less.

Also...what's the problem? It bothers you that other people like things you don't? Grow up and lighten up...you'll live longer and be happier...that's my time travel advice.

GROOSALUGG

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:18 PM

For those looking for an explanation of why Cameron (Summer) can be very human in some scenes, and very Terminator-"I-don't-understand" in others, try this:

She'd been sent back 60- or 70-something days before John showed up, waiting for him. She knew she was going to have to blend in at school to get close to him, so she spent all (or at least, most) of her time observing how high schoolers interact with each other, and that's her biggest database of human behavior to draw from. Other situations, like how to behave when visiting a retired guerilla, or how to act in front of a gang house in the barrio, are things she didn't have experience with.

And as for why she acts Terminator-y when alone with Sarah and John, they know who and what she is, so there's no need for her to do the fake 'human' act in front of them...

SMAUG

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:36 PM

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She'd been sent back 60- or 70-something days before John showed up, waiting for him. She knew she was going to have to blend in at school to get close to him, so she spent all (or at least, most) of her time observing how high schoolers interact with each other, and that's her biggest database of human behavior to draw from. Other situations, like how to behave when visiting a retired guerilla, or how to act in front of a gang house in the barrio, are things she didn't have experience with.

That's actually a good theory. That fits if she was a T800 model who is NOT in read only mode. However she directly tells John that she is "Different" and doesn't answer what model she is. The other T800 that was sent back to 2007 to kill the resistance fighters did not recongonize what type of terminator she was. This indicates that she is more advanced than a T800. Weither she is more so than a T1000 or whatever the chick was in T3 remains to be seen.. but she does not seem to have the weapons technology of those terminators.

So while this idea makes sense... even if Summer is a more advanced terminator (T900?).. I think they have something else up their sleves. Or they are just being inconsistant with no game plan at all.. which could be a possiblity.

Smaug..

ETHAN

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Feel better now Ethan?
Just for the record...I'm a GEEK and I LOVE Galaxy Quest and I LOVE all the Terminator movies. I also like to rub oatmeal all over my face sometimes too.

I find nothing "pedestrian" about Galaxy Quest ( pedestrian means average, common...right?) so tell me what has ever been like Galaxy Quest that makes it pedestrian?

And honestly, you don't really know jack squat about time travel...or at least don't know any more than anybody else, and likely less.

Also...what's the problem? It bothers you that other people like things you don't? Grow up and lighten up...you'll live longer and be happier...that's my time travel advice.

I actually agree with all your opinions. I just get testy when people diss on T3 and Summer's new show because of contradictions with the alleged holyness of James Cameron's movies. Titanic and the Abyss sucked. Massively.

My background in astrophysics says I at least know more than James Cameron about time travel. Did I mention I don't like James Cameron? If he had his way no one would have the chance to spend a nucleur winter with Clair Danes.

SHINY

Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:07 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
i think there was one in the scene with the chair that bullets couldn't penetrate

Not sure if you caught it, but the police officer inspecting the house does say:

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00:27:16,465 --> 00:27:17,719
It's kevlar in that chair.

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I don't need a gorram back-spaceship driver!!!

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:13 AM

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Originally posted by ethan:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Feel better now Ethan?
Just for the record...I'm a GEEK and I LOVE Galaxy Quest and I LOVE all the Terminator movies. I also like to rub oatmeal all over my face sometimes too.

I find nothing "pedestrian" about Galaxy Quest ( pedestrian means average, common...right?) so tell me what has ever been like Galaxy Quest that makes it pedestrian?

And honestly, you don't really know jack squat about time travel...or at least don't know any more than anybody else, and likely less.

Also...what's the problem? It bothers you that other people like things you don't? Grow up and lighten up...you'll live longer and be happier...that's my time travel advice.

I actually agree with all your opinions. I just get testy when people diss on T3 and Summer's new show because of contradictions with the alleged holyness of James Cameron's movies. Titanic and the Abyss sucked. Massively.

My background in astrophysics says I at least know more than James Cameron about time travel. Did I mention I don't like James Cameron? If he had his way no one would have the chance to spend a nucleur winter with Clair Danes.

Your response here is a kindness. In a previous post here I too went to bat for T3 'cause I love that movie. Funny, because the first time I saw it (like a lot of things)I wasn't all that impressed, but on subsequent viewings the whole thing fell into place for me, AND I actually for the first time ever really liked Clare Danes. Also, about time travel...when we look up at the sky at night we all time travel; whether it's looking at a nearby star that appears to us as it existed hundreds or thousands of years ago, or to nearby visible galaxies like Andromeda that shows us it's magnificance from some 2 million years ago.

WINDSTRUCK

Monday, January 21, 2008 1:25 PM

I like the show...

I have another theory on the Summer human and not-human mode.

I think she killed(maybe not really) the real Cameron and replaced her as the real Cameron on the 2nd day of school when the bad-acting, lame-written terminator tried to kill John at school. I may not be able to support this theory because I am not sure I've watched the second episode enough times. I'll try and watch it again.

I also agree with the point that Future Resistance Leader, John Connor knows that Summer terminator is the RIGHT terminator for the job. This Future John is also the result of the 2007 time line.

Although, I see that this series will go in a way that most wouldn't expect, I'm still going to wait for the next episodes and see where it truly leads. Despite the plot holes, and weak script, I still think Summer is the star of the show. She's doing her job amazingly well. Loved the human side so much in the first episode.

ASARIAN

Monday, January 21, 2008 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by ethan:

So to all you geeks moaning about the inconsistencies and the destruction of your precious Terminator canon there you have it. Even a dumbass Tim Allen movie like Galaxy Quest out classes the so called James Cameron masterpiece when it comes to scifi sophistication. So how does your canon taste now? Mwahahaha!

T2 was a Cameron masterpiece; and T3 can't be bashed enough. And Galaxy Quest was a masterpiece of irony.

As for the rest of your rant: I don't fight in no war. Best of luck, though.

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

GROOSALUGG

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:30 AM

So, anybody watch it tonight and have a theory on what-the-hell? As if we didn't get enough of these types of crazy mysteries on "Lost"...

About the only thing I can think is that possibly the blonde girl John talked to a couple of times is a bad Terminator, and was trying to draw him and Summer--err, I mean, Cameron--out by driving that other girl to suicide and hoping they'd step out and try to stop her. 'Cause other than that, I got nothin'...

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