Aid for Israel
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Monday, August 17, 2026 14:58
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Anthony,
You are correct. This may have been more constructive. However, unfortunatly, this is an issue which has too much emotion embroiled in it.
Straight logic dictates that we end foreign aid to Israel, and use it for ourselves. But, for the reasons mentioned above, and our own sense of "guilt"... we don't.
Foreign Aid to Israel and Affirmative Action are 2 sides of the same coin. Both are tossed in the air to compensate for a lack of intelligence and/or logic.
Still waiting for an INTELLIGENT response to my questions.
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So, Finn- Care to address the issues so eloquently brought up by Frem and Wulf?
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Always look upstream.
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Still waiting for an INTELLIGENT response to my questions.
Ouch.
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If all else failed, absolutely we would have suicide warriors. I always think it is interesting that we, as a western nation, embrace the 'suicide mission' to achieve a vital objective...
but we turn around and villainize the 'suicide bomber' who drives a truck into a military base and destroys himself, or the kamikaze fighter that crashes himself into a ship, or the speedboat driver who explodes a warship in harbor.
I don't believe we villainize "suicide bombers" that strike military targets any more than any other enemy combatant. You are confusing the villainization of those that target innocent civilians with those that strike "legitimate" military targets. Are you saying there's no difference between the US military sending a person on an important mission with a high probability of failure, and a Palestinian suicide bomber blowing up innocent Israels in a shopping mall. I can't remember the last time our military strapped a bomb on a soldier and blew up innocent civilians for no strategic reason. Sure we kill innocents all the time but we don't target them.
I fail to see the moral equivalency between a high risk "suicide mission", and placing so little value on the lives of your soldiers that you strap a bomb on them to kill civilians.
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Quote:Not really. As I explained to Wulf, I’m completely uninterested in dicussing this topic at that level. Discussing the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict is one thing, but if it’s hating Jews...count me out.
Originally posted by SignyM:
So, Finn- Care to address the issues so eloquently brought up by Frem and Wulf?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Well then, care to discuss the founding of Israel?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well then, care to discuss the founding of Israel?
I'm game. Where would you have established the State of Israel?
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If it were up to me, nowhere.
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Well,... it's an answer.
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If you were part of a people without a homeland, a people that had barely survived a genocide that killed millions wouldn't you want somewhere --- a defendable space and your own military to protect you?
That's the problem with this whole deal. I can't think of any group of people that wouldn't want somewhere safe, somewhere where they were not dependent on someone else for defence after an event like the holocaust.
Doesn't mean that taking arab land was right, but you can at least understand the motivation behind it.
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