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Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:53 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Sunday night's ratings were very high, approximately 18.3 million viewers, but I have been unable to find reports about last night's ep. I wouldn't be too quick to celebrate the seemingly good news about the pilot's reception though, considering it was the only new scripted show in it's timeslot, and it aired immediately following a very highly rated football game. They also promoted it very heavily during the game.





Poster over at Whedonesque said they got about 10mil viewers, 4.3 rating.

So, they lost about 45% of the audience that viewed the pilot.

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:19 PM

ECGordon, Groosalugg thanks for the info.
Just as I’ve posted before it is no big deal, it just hit me as strange Sara Conner being considered 19 or younger in the original Terminator. Course I know that actors play younger roles all the time. For anyone who watches the show Tom Welling and Kristin Kreuk/ Clark Kent and Lana Lang in Smallville played teenagers for years and for any si/fi-fantasy type entertainment the viewer must let go the reality strings somewhat for them to work. After all it is about letting go for an hour or 2 and just relax and be entertained. It’s one of the reasons I enjoy science fiction/fantasy as much as I do. Writers don’t have to be as bound to events and circumstances as with true history or westerns. Anyway thanks for clearing up the timeline of events.

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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:35 PM

I was cautiously optimistic about Sunday's ratings, and not too worried about the drop-off for Monday's ep. I would bet that a lot of people didn't expect it to be back on until next Sunday. When that day comes around and it isn't there they will probably go searching and find out about the Monday showing. That, plus the fact they will be repeating the pilot on the 28th, should help it retain viewers and possibly pick up some new ones.


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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:16 AM

T3 was an abomination if you kiss T2's boots, which I don't.

T2 was a fun time at the cinema but overall it was a glorified standard Hollywood shoot-em up with below average dialouge and human drama: Said Arnold the Terminator to Ed Furlong, "Now I know why humans cry." Gack! Gaaaack!!!

I like T3 for it's dark nonstandard Hollywood vibe and ending. According to me T2 is the abomination for retro-actively contradicting T3. Nonetheless, from whatever side you argue it's a geek's nitpick.

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:36 AM

Free downloads of all Sarah Conner Chronicles TV episodes:

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:23 PM

The show isn't doing it for me yet. Cameron seems to pull off human with ease early on then later she's back to stunted terminator "I don't understand" type of acting. She just seems to switch back and forth way too much for my taste.

The evil terminators are not at all exciting. We know they can't succeed. We know that they will never kill John so they pose no real threat. I'm never worried. The worst they could do in this series is kill Cameron. Sarah Conner is the lead character. So, she's safe. John is the motivation for the whole show. Without him it would all be over anyway. So, he's safe. Just takes all the suspense out of it for me.

The actual story isn't doing much for me either. They want to take down sky net. You've done this before without any change. What the heck makes you think it will be different this time? The only thing that might impress me is if Sarah reveals to Cameron that they're just doing this to give John something to focus on and gain more field experience. Sort of a ruse to make him believe in his own ability so that he'll be ready when the inevitable judgement day arrives.


Oh and all I really hate how they're trying to put little familiar things from the movies into the series. "Come with me if you want to live" yuck. "Hey let's go visit that house from T2 even though it accomplishes nothing"

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
The show isn't doing it for me yet. Cameron seems to pull off human with ease early on then later she's back to stunted terminator "I don't understand" type of acting.



Excellent point! I had not thought of that, but you're completely correct.

She went from being able to flirt and converse to not knowing when to laugh in a conversation (with INFORMANT UNCLE).

Again, just shoddy writing.

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:55 PM

Jeeeeesh...if we Summer Glau fans along with Terminator fans cannot seem to fully enjoy the show yet, imagine what the general public thinks?

First..Summer...in my book she can't do any wrong. No matter how she acts on the show I don't care. I just like looking at her and hearing her speak....truth is I actually turned the show off for a few minutes Sunday night, but then my Summer/River "guilt" set in and I put it back on. I liked Monday's show much more than Sunday's.
Second...I would have considered myself fairly well informed concerning the Terminator movies, but this show has my head a'spinnin'! It's hard for me to follow along, so I can only imagine what a newbie to this sub-genre would be thinking.
Fox should have aired them back-to-back on Sunday, and repeated the 2-hour show on Monday as well. With as many viewers dropping off from Sunday to Monday I hope they can find a large enough core audience to keep it on the air.

Also..one other thing - can't that Dekker kid EVER brush or comb his hair? Is that how he's gonna go through life, looking like he just woke up?





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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:19 PM

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Cameron seems to pull off human with ease early on then later she's back to stunted terminator "I don't understand" type of acting.


Agreed... However I pointed out earlier.. that she seems to pull off "human" with John.. but with other people or any other situation it's the "I don't understand". I have to believe there is a reason for this that we don't know yet. I just hope it's a good reason.

I also have to believe there is a reason he sent this exact terminator back. My thought is that there is a REASON John sent not just this model of terminator back to the past, but this EXACT terminator back. Is because he ALREADY knew her.. from his past.

He KNEW to send Kyle back... because he knew Kyle was his father... that's why he gave the photo of his mother to Kyle long before he sent him back and told him about her. He KNEW to send Arnold back.. and not just ANY T800 arnold terminator.. he KNEW the exact one to send back. There was a scene in the orginal shooting script of T2 that was never filmed. It was the resistance breaking into a terminator factory.. and John walking up and down rows and rows of Arnold T800 terminators... hundreds of them... maybe thousands... yet he finally stops at ONE in particular... looks it in the eyes... and smiles. How does he know to send not just ANY terminator... not just the arnold T800 terminator model.. but this EXACT terminator? How could he even tell.. when there are hundreds of them that look exactly alike? He knew... instintivily... because it already happened to him.. and his gut just told him.. that THIS was the ONE Arnold terminator to send back.

Which if the writers know ANYTHING about what they are doing... (which hasn't been shown yet).. the future John already KNOWS exactly why he sent THIS exact terminator back... and not just ANY of possbily 1000's of T900? Summer terminators.. but this EXACT one!

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The evil terminators are not at all exciting. We know they can't succeed. We know that they will never kill John so they pose no real threat. I'm never worried. The worst they could do in this series is kill Cameron. Sarah Conner is the lead character. So, she's safe. John is the motivation for the whole show. Without him it would all be over anyway. So, he's safe. Just takes all the suspense out of it for me.


Good point. But remember that the whole idea behind terminator is that the future is NOT set. There is nothing to say that John can not be killed. Of course this would set up a time travel paradox.. but ANY time you deal with time travel.. you are going to run into a paradox. So the only thing that keeps him alive is that we probably wouldn't have a show without him. But that doesn't mean that towards the series finale (whenever that may be), that it could be revealed that John is killed. We have never seen what the future could be more than just a few years after Judgement day. We only heard about up to the point that John had defeated skynet and was about to deal the final blow.. until they realized at that point that skynet had develeped time travel and sent a terminator back in time. So in the future.. the war is over.. as long as that time line remains.. so the war is now in the past... so there is nothing to say that he can't be killed and the time line changed. The future is not set.

I just hope that they DON'T kill him... but then BRING him back through some time traveling device by someone ELSE coming back through time and STOPPING the killing. Like I said earlier.. the more they time travel.. the deeper the whole gets dug.

It's already getting pretty deep and is already a mess.

Let's see:

1) First we find out skynet sent 1 terminator back to 1984(?) To kill Sarah Conner before John was born. This was AS John in the future had defeated skynet but realized that there was a new war being waged in the past. At this point the time line has changed and John is aware of what's happened in his past and already knows what to do. He sends Kyle Reece back. Knowing it's what

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