Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles

POSTED BY: Gapsule
UPDATED: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:50
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ETHAN

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:58 AM

The 2nd episode is much better than the first. Already the depth and complexity of character interaction in this episode alone exceeds all of the movies combined.

Summer had a terrifying cold-blooded robot moment that blew me away. You could see in her expression she decided she was going to have to kill that police officer in a manner of seconds...it was brilliant! She's taking to this role in a way that even surprises me....and I was already a HUGE Summer fan.

Oh, and it looks like Sarah is going to die of cancer afterall.

MUGGI

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:15 AM

I gotta say, the word from those that had seen the second episode was that it really got the series going and ah...not so much for me.

IMO, this is looking more and more like 3 good actors (Summer, Sara Connor and the FBI guy) stuck in a show with some very shoddy writing. Spoilers:

To preface these, I'd just like to say I'm not one who cares whatsoever about canon. I just want to be entertained in a reasonable way. e.g. I've always said that if FF ever DID make it back to the small screen, I'd vote for them to disregard the BDM altogether, so I could see more Wash and Book tales.

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Why exactly was the terminator from 1999 decapitated? She shot him with some kind of energy ray, in the chest. That made his head pop off? Why was he in a bunch of rubble? There's no mention of the bank being blown up or anything. So..if the bank DIDN'T blow up, and its just being demolished in 2007..didn't anyone notice the GIANT HEADLESS ROBOT laying in the vault?! If it WAS blown up immediately after the time travel (NOT mentioned, but let's assume)..it took them SEVEN YEARS to clean up the mess? Why does a Terminator's severed head only return to power once a human picks it up? Why does it have its own power source at all, and if it DOES have its own power source, why only regain function after seven years?! WTF is going on with this SCRIPT?!

They would have been better served having the 1999 Terminator living on the streets or something..since it obviously knows they time-traveled, and it has no other function but to kill John, wouldn't it be logical that it just wait for them to reappear, just in case?

If the Spanish uncle was a KNOWN RAT to his nephew, why is God's name would the nephew accept him vouching for Sara? Why would he do something highly illegal for someone HE KNOWS IS IN CAHOOTS WITH A KNOWN INFORMANT?!

These writers are gorram idiots, I'm sorry. This script is complete crap.

I'll keep watching, because there are moments of brilliance where Summer gets to shine..mainly any scene with her "learning" about being human. Other than that..there's really nothing compelling.

MYCROFTXXX

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:20 AM

Although the story centered around the Sarah character, you can see Summer taking this role seriously. There are small nuances in several places where she's seen studying human activities. I especially liked the one where she's hanging out with the hispanic lookout girl and mimicking her actions... slouching against the car. Later scene there is a really short camera shot of the latino girl putting makeup on Summer. Nice touch!

BTW, we'll have to call her Summer until she gets a name other than "tinman".

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:29 AM

Regarding canon timeline, Sarah became pregnant in 1984. Then John is born 1985. So if T2 is 1995, John really is 10. and 14 in 1999. If Sarah was 18 in 1984, her age in new show is correct at 32. Doesn't seem too far off.
I liked what I saw.

STRANGEBIRD

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:34 AM

I'm sure she'll die but remember the name of the show.... Anyway if I'm remembering right Cameron(Her name has been used already we can call her that you know?) said she died in 2005, that gives her a few years to live with the cancer first. I seriously doubt this series will make it five seasons though. Only time will tell.

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SHINY

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:13 AM

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Originally posted by Gapsule:
The terminator timeline has always been screwed up

Time travel tends to do that. ;)

e.g. if they can send soldiers way back to assemble kick-a$$ weapons for this story, why couldn't they have done so for T1 or T2? If there's constant improvement of cyborgs in the future, why didn't the later versions get sent back further (before the 1st terminator)? Maybe the cyborgs have to be a little careful to avoid making big enough changes to the timeline that skynet never gets built, but the resistance could send back enough skilled people to create their own super-high-tech colony just waiting for signs of sky-net so they could pre-emptively nuke it...

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ASARIAN

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Gapsule:

The terminator timeline has always been screwed up, but since this show isn't meant to deal with canon we have no troubles. If you try to read all the books and comics with a preconceived timeline in your head, your head will explode.

Almost every entertainment program has problems when it comes to time, even Angel had problems with its timeline. It's one of those things that is just to complex for us mere mortals. How old is he really?

T3 changed John's age to 13 rather than the 10 shown in T2.

T3 was an abomination. T2, on the other hand, was truly brilliant. I still get a thrill when I see 'Mr. Fluid' walk out from under that viaduct, half-liquid still. Or when he pauses a mite to look at that mannequin's head.

As for John's age in T2, I'm fair certain he was 15, no?

Ennyhows, just got hold of the HD version op ep 2; and from what I read here, it's supposed to be a step up. Summer!!!! :)

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JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by asarian:
T3 was an abomination. T2, on the other hand, was truly brilliant.

You really think that? I actually love T3, even more than T2....but T1 will always be the best for me.
I thought Clare Danes did a great job as a scared,confused, yet powerful woman, later to become Connor's wife and resistance leader. The tie-in to her father General Brewster, the man who pushed the Sky Net button was great, and the initial machine "take-over" was well-done. John Connor was much, much, much, better than that obnoxious, whiny Edward Furlong role in T2. Nick Stahl looked the part and he acted the part well. Having them both end up in a fallout bunker was great too, what I expected to see when the bombs start dropping. And the Termanatrix was not only sexy & hot, she was truly powerful and deadly. So what again was an abomination in T3?

ZZETTA13

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:49 PM

I love Summer Glau and I have enjoyed the Terminator movies. The balance of the cast has been good and the story certainly can go places. But so far I haven’t been impressed. I know it’s still early and just like Firefly it needs to be given some time. Only I feel it isn’t even in the same ballpark as FF. It isn’t Summer, or the acting of any other cast member but I just ain’t feeling it. It may be because of all the T movies that I’ve seen before but there just seems to be something missing. Oh well whether it stays or goes I ain’t loosing any sleep over it and I don’t know that I’ll watch every episode. Especially if there are reruns of FF at the same time on another station.
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ASARIAN

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

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Originally posted by asarian:
T3 was an abomination. T2, on the other hand, was truly brilliant.

You really think that? I actually love T3, even more than T2....but T1 will always be the best for me.

I thought Clare Danes did a great job as a scared,confused, yet powerful woman, later to become Connor's wife and resistance leader. The tie-in to her father General Brewster, the man who pushed the Sky Net button was great, and the initial machine "take-over" was well-done. John Connor was much, much, much, better than that obnoxious, whiny Edward Furlong role in T2. Nick Stahl looked the part and he acted the part well. Having them both end up in a fallout bunker was great too, what I expected to see when the bombs start dropping. And the Termanatrix was not only sexy & hot, she was truly powerful and deadly. So what again was an abomination in T3?

Should I start with the part where they're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where the Terminators have no clothes? No, seriously, don't get me started. :)

First off, the cheap, hopelessly ripped-off, let's-use-the-same-joke-twice-but-without-proper-context-or-reason type of repeat-lines, like: "I like your gun" (as in: "Say, that's a nice bike"). Ugh.

Secondly, they frakked up the whole Skynet thing. T2:

"All stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computer systems, becoming fully unmanned. They fly with a perfect operational record, removing all human decisions from strategic defense. The Skynet funding bill is passed. It begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14AM August 29. In a panic, they try to pull the plug. Skynet fights back."

T3 fraks up this plot beyond all recognition. First they begin with a corny, childish virus that allegedly gets passed every firewall in the world. What a load of bullocks! That sorta "teenager with 'back-door' to high military computers" twist was cute twenty years ago in "War Games" or some such, but you really gotta do a lot better these days! But, more importantly, the whole virus plot is a gross violation of how the Terminator laid it all down in T2. So, they deploy Skynet to defeat this virus, and something goes wrong. Yawn. All within minutes. The reason for putting Skynet online, and the time it takes to become self-aware, the whole premisse of T2 is raped in ways that would land you 20 years to life if you violated a human in that fashion.

Thirdly, again with the cheap imitation: Terminatrix and Terminator pushing each other through walls and stuff.

Fourthly, the Terminatrix's "primary weapon" breaks with what's possible with mimetic polyalloy, allowing the T1000 series to emulate anyone or anything of equal size, except (T2) "complex machines" like "guns and explosives" because they "have chemicals, moving parts." They can, however, form "knives and stabbing weapons." And worse: the Terminatrix's "primary weapon" breaks.

Fifthly, T3 grotesquely mangle's one of T2's main premisses: "The future is not set. There's no future but what we make for ourselves." So, if you can't change anything anyway -- or just postpone it -- then what's the frakkin' point of sending machines back to try and... yeah, change things?? Oopsie.

Sixthly, Terminatrix messes with the "Nr. 5 is alive" kinda robots in storage, who all seem oddly fully loaded with ammo.

Seventhly, the Terminatrix hot?? Saffron is hot! The Terminatrix was a boilerplate bimbette if I ever saw one. If she were any more vacuous you'd need a special lense to even have her register on film!

Clare Danes actually IS my type. So that was good. :) But Nick Stahl really was a mess. He played the part well, though. It weren't his fault. And as for Edward Furlong, he's probably the best young actor I've seen in years!

Sigh. I could keep on bashing T3 for ever ("Easy money!", I salute young Furlong!). But suffice to conclude, once again, that it was an abomination.

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