Aid for Israel
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Monday, August 17, 2026 14:58
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Quote:Yes it did, and yes it is. How about that citizen - you learned something. Good for you.
Originally posted by citizen:
The six day war lasted six days? Really? No? Is that why they call it the six day war then?
Also the principle weapon by which Israel won the Six-Day War in the first day, were fighterjets from France, not US arms.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Hmm, and maybe one day your limited intellect could learn to grasp sarcasm eh
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Yes it did, and yes it is. How about that citizen - you learned something. Good for you.
.More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:Hmm, and maybe one day your limited intellect could learn to grasp sarcasm eh
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Yes it did, and yes it is. How about that citizen - you learned something. Good for you.
LOL... Even I got that one Finn.... and Cit is probably as close to a mortal enemy as I got.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Quote:You mean like you! Wow, you get sarcasm so good!
Originally posted by citizen:Quote:Hmm, and maybe one day your limited intellect could learn to grasp sarcasm eh
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Yes it did, and yes it is. How about that citizen - you learned something. Good for you.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I love jews! So I support America's aid to Israel. Shoot we wipe the Egyptian's slate clean. The 73 war Golda said when Israel needed Richard Nixon, Richard Nixon was their for Israel. Israel won the first 2 wars with ahabs but they were knocked down pretty hard in the 3rd one. The airforce dropped in with everything they needed. The USS Liberty was a spy ship that got sunk because the jews didn't want the ahabs knowing that Israel was going to strike first in the six day war of 67. I don't even mine all the reality tv we send to Great Britain.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Quote:I got you were trying to be sarcastic Finn, it's just it only really works if I meant what I said, which since I obviously didn't, just makes yourself look foolish; but carry on, if that's what you want I mean.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
You mean like you! Wow, you get sarcasm so good!
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:A friend is someone that you can count on for mutual support, not a leech stuck permanently to your teat.
The US has very few true friends in the world and we should do all we reasonably can to support them.
Israel has always followed Israel's interests, not ours. Once in a few decade our interests coincide, but mostly Israel just complicates our situation in the ME. We only support them because of their lobby in the US, which has us conflating our interests with theirs, and their fingers in our foreign policy. (Let me remind you again of the neocons: Wurmser, Feith, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld, several of whom have demonstrated ties to the Likud party, and their biggest supporter Lieberman who referred to Israel as "us".)
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Hello,
Thanks everyone. And I appreciate it, Six. I'll have to check out that author's work.
It's true that we supplied Israel with weapons and equipment as well as cash prior to the Six day war. As Citizen pointed out, we did this to keep them in parity with their Soviet supplied enemies.
The days of parity have long passed, however. Israel is now technologically superior to their neighbors. They also have a much higher standard of training.
Let me put it this way: I wouldn't want our military to have to fight Israel.
Isn't it time, as someone said, to put the bird out of the nest? We can still be allies, trade intelligence, and have a mutual defense treaty. We can even maintain mutually beneficial joint development projects, like the one we entered into a while back to develop a point defense laser.
If there is any new information to put on the table, everyone feel free to do so. Or closing arguments, if not.
I appreciate everyone's positions on this, and I can sympathize with those who want to maintain aid, even though I haven't heard any logical arguments that would convince me to change my mind.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Oh, Israel is our ally? Really? so- What have they done for us lately? Or even in the past 60 years?
It’s always easier to support allies that don‘t need our help, but does that mean we abandon our allies that do? I’m not sure I like that approach to foreign policy.
What have any of our allies done for us in the last 60 years? We are the 600-pound gorilla, we are the ones who others turn to for help, most of them can't provide us with anything that we couldn't have handled on our own.
But Israel did give us the Core 2 processor, reason enough to keep them around in itself.
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