5 Myths About the Poor Middle Class
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Friday, January 4, 2008 20:04
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Good point, Signy...
It has all happened before, and will again Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Howz about we just limit government's ability to facilitate the rich TAKING money (Haliburton, Blackwater, anyone?) instead of making money? I'd be okay with that, wouldn't you, Kirk? Jong? Or do you guys really have no clue JUST HOW concentrated the wealth has become in this country?
The Jong part of the Kirk/Jong unit would like to know JUST HOW concentrated it is. Please enlighten me Chris.
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*Frem takes a magic marker and writes on a 2x4 BAILOUTS, S&L CRISIS, SUBSIDIES, NO BID CONTRACTS, and then bashes Jong over the head with it... several times*
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
*Frem takes a magic marker and writes on a 2x4 BAILOUTS, S&L CRISIS, SUBSIDIES, NO BID CONTRACTS, and then bashes Jong over the head with it... several times*
As I wipe the blood away from the cut in my head caused by your terrorist magic marker, I'd ask if you knew that these "things" you cited have been around for decades....under Admins of both parties, through good times & bad. Are they only an indicator of a possible recession NOW because the Dems & their media mouthpieces think it's a good strategy to divide and scare the American people?
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Jong, us frogs have been sitting in this pot with the water getting hotter for a damned long time under quite a few administrations of either party, it's just that now we're beginning to feel the heat, is all.
For the love o mercy, learn some HISTORY, kid.
-F
*don't forget lead poisoning, since the magic marker was made in china.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:By taking any jobs available- even honest ones...
Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
How does one survive the increasing costs of food, gas, housing, clothing, etc, when wages don't keep up to the increase? Answer me that.
Malisall
Actually, I have a great job, one I enjoy and I make the most I ever had, but even price of living in my neck of the woods make it hard to get by, especially if money is not the best thing you're good at. I guess my point was that point of view is everything. Even Hitler didn't think he was bad(Snerk, couldn't help myself). And chrisisall, if you know of any "under the radar" jobs in Idaho, let me know.
I have 6 locks on my door and bolt every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they're always locking 3 locks.
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
That "the rich get richer" BS just doesn't fly with me because while the "rich" get richer the "poor" get richer too. As much as I would love to believe we can take money from the "rich" an give it to the "poor" and everything will be just dandy, I know it's not true. Redistribution of wealth by the government will result in a smaller "pie" to divide among the rich and poor and everyone looses in the end.
Actually, look what happened in Russia when it became the Soviet Union. Same premise, but the wealth never made it down, it just got rearranged between the leaders of the revolution. And you can't just TAKE it either, that's called theft.
I have 6 locks on my door and bolt every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they're always locking 3 locks.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Howz about we just limit government's ability to facilitate the rich TAKING money (Haliburton, Blackwater, anyone?) instead of making money? I'd be okay with that, wouldn't you, Kirk? Jong? Or do you guys really have no clue JUST HOW concentrated the wealth has become in this country?
I could envision a time when peeps here say, "Most homeless get regular meals at the soup kitchens, and have portable 20" flat screen tv's to watch in their cardboard boxes- they're doing fine compared to the poor in the third and fourth worlds!"
A matter of perspective Chrisisall
I'm with you on eliminating "rich TAKING money" but I think the examples you give are poor ones. We need to start were the real money is, Archer Daniels Midland and Exxon Mobil. The corporate welfare money the Gov. hands out in farm and oil exploration subsidies is obscene.
I'm well aware of the distribution of wealth in this country and world wide. It's been that way long as I can remember. Any suggestions on what to do about it other than take form me and give to you.
I never can figure out who you guys are talking about when you talk about the "poor". The definition changes every few years. Early in my lifetime the "poor" were living in rural areas with not enough to eat and no plumbing, refrigeration, cars, etc. or in slums in the cities. Nobody born in the last 20 years in the US has ever seen a real slum here. I drive through areas that used to be slums and I see new public housing and crack dealers on every other street corner. When I was young the "poor" couldn't afford crack they had to spend every penny on food and housing.
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Quote:I grew up about as poor as it’s possible to be in this country, and I still had a higher standard of living then probably half of Europe, or at least a third. A lot of people like to throw a lot of crap around about this country, but the fact is that many Americans don’t seem to have any clue how good they’ve got it.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
I never can figure out who you guys are talking about when you talk about the "poor". The definition changes every few years. Early in my lifetime the "poor" were living in rural areas with not enough to eat and no plumbing, refrigeration, cars, etc. or in slums in the cities. Nobody born in the last 20 years in the US has ever seen a real slum here. I drive through areas that used to be slums and I see new public housing and crack dealers on every other street corner. When I was young the "poor" couldn't afford crack they had to spend every penny on food and housing.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Like? When did you grow up? What did you have that "half" of Europe didn't have?
I grew up about as poor as it’s possible to be in this country, and I still had a higher standard of living then probably half of Europe, or at least a third.
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