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Pakistan's Bhutto Killed in Attack

POSTED BY: deadlockvictim
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 14, 2026 16:40
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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:56 PM

Wouldn't put it past the CIA- it's not like they haven't done stuff like that before...

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:58 PM

I'm not sure if Musharraf finds extremists useful or simply to big to take on directly, but Pakistan's ISI (like the CIA, NSA, and Special Forces all rolled into one) funded the Taliban for years. ObL is holed up somewhere in Pakistan too.

IN this case, it's prolly extremists who did the deed, but Musharraf found it awfully convenient.

Oh and BTW he's our ally.




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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
If you would bother to know anything JS you might be worth talking to.


Oh no no...I much prefer that you never talk to me. Guess I'll have to stay ignorant to avoid any direct contact from you, but I do adore you're daily, ever-present little jabs, nudges, and insults. I miss them terribly when you're away...C'mon now...I've got a few other posts today on these boards...lot's of correcting and condescending for you to do....let's snap to it!

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:06 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Wow. You just can't stop with the partisan bullshit, can you?



Careful. That's a knife that cuts both ways.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:

there will never be peace on earth



And this is a surprise to anyone who has even a moderate knowledge of world history?

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:08 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
lot's of correcting and condescending for you to do....let's snap to it!


"Lot's" would be a contraction of "lot is", which makes no sense, Jong.

Correcting and condescending Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:11 PM

At the risk of pissing off the people who are enjoying the partisan bullshit (on both sides), I thought I'd raise a question about the death of Bhutto: will this strengthen the position of radical Islamists in Pakistani politics, or weaken it? IMHO, it could go either way. Pakistan has a strong secular tradition (Bhutto was an ex-Prime Minister twice over, and she was a woman). On the other hand, even reasonable people will pipe down when a violent death is a live option.

(Also, the fact that the conversation has devolved into a game of "you-people-are-all-idiots" is a good example of both why I hate the current state of American politics, and why I come ever closer to putting these boards behind me. Left and right, Republican and Democrat--we can't even talk about the issues anymore. Pathetic. What's wrong with us?)
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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:

there will never be peace on earth



And this is a surprise to anyone who has even a moderate knowledge of world history?]



guess i was caught up in the whole christmas season thing... i do know better

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:17 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
]lot's of correcting and condescending for you to do....let's snap to it!


"Lot's" would be a contraction of "lot is", which makes no sense, Jong.

Correcting and condescending Chrisisall:


Might not have made sense to you, still not convinced it makes no sense to me.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:21 PM

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Wow. You just can't stop with the partisan bullshit, can you?- Signy

Careful. That's a knife that cuts both ways.- Causal

Yanno, I was all ready to talk about what this means for the future of Pakistan and for the region. Whether or not there could ever be an "orange" revolution in the area, and if this might set the stage for it. But peeps like Hero and Jongsstraw throw so much chaff into the air it's hard not to respond. I try not to, I really do. I should know better and just ignore them.

So ...
I try to keep a realistic eye on what's REALLY going on. (For example, part of the reason why Iraq is settling down is because it IS being partitioned... something I've advocated for years.) And I have a strange feeling that this might be a turning point for Pakistan: That it might reject both authoritarian rule AND Muslim extremists. Five or ten years from now, when Pakistanis look back, they might mark this as the signal event of change.

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