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Pakistan's Bhutto Killed in Attack

POSTED BY: deadlockvictim
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Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:36 PM

You're right...I stand corrected. I should have used the term MODERN Democrats. Guys like Truman & FDR , and yes Joe "The Man" Leiberman would spit on Pelosi & Reid for their treasonous rhetoric. Truman & FDR put the safety & security of American citizens ahead of all other considerations....sorry Japanese-Americans....sorry German-Americans....your brief confinement was seen as necessary back then, because our President was trying to win a war against ruthless barbarians and feared a home-grown fifth column. Now we're fighting jihadists overseas...THEY DON'T NEED a fifth column here...they already have the Democrats & the Mainstream Media here acting as useful idiots in their war against the West. Spock's little parable...The Needs Of The Many, etc etc falls on deaf liberal ears. To them the needs of the ONE outweigh the needs of the many.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:38 PM

You know what? The problem is that the Bush Administration has NOT tracked or monitored or detained terrorists. The vast majority of people who've been monitored, tracked and detained.... and I mean the totally vast majority... are just regular folk like you. Now I don't know about you, but I don't think it's reasonable to treat the whole nation as if it were guilty because of a few terrorists, especially in light of the fact that procedures are ALREADY in place to track and monitor terrorists. Even the FISA courts allow searches w/o warrants, provided that you get one after the fact.

The only thing the Bush Administration has done is to throw out judicial oversight and get rid of the necessity of warrants and charges (habeas corpus. You might be familiar with that Hero).

So get your heads out of that false dichotomy that you seem to be stuck in. It's NOT a case of 'either -or".
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Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:42 PM

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And maybe a little harsh interrogation could have prevented this.
You're joking, right? You think Pakistan doesn't have harsh interrogation already? My god, man, get your head out of your butt!

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:08 PM

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That's because Democrats basically hate America, and are suicidal in their zeal to see our country go down in flames.



Jeez, maybe we should register 'em all, make 'em wear special arm bands with a special symbol,( yellow with a six pointed star would be good , maybe?), load 'em into freight trains and ship them to special camps. There's a place memorialized in Poland where that was tried, the facilities there are still preserved. It's called Osweikem, something like that...

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:20 PM

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There's a place memorialized in Poland where that was tried, the facilities there are still preserved. It's called Osweikem, something like that...


I think you mean Oswego; it's in upstate NY. There's a State University of NY there & it's very cold in the winter. If by ANY chance you actually meant Auschwitz, then your post would be worthy of further discussion.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:24 PM

The correct spelling is Oświęcim. If you would bother to know anything JS you might be worth talking to.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
The correct spelling is Oświęcim. If you would bother to know anything JS you might be worth talking to.

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Thanx, Sig. Didn't think I spelled it quite right, and I refuse to use special characters...

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:35 PM

Well here's the thing: I didn't know about it either but I looked it up. OTOH, some folks refuse to learn, and that's why they never get smarter.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Bottom line for Liberals is ...they would accept a million dead Americans before we profile, eavesdrop, or interrogate a suspect who knew of the pending plans.

More black & white BS.
As a 'Liberal', I don't have much problem with illegal taps and such, if it's to gather info on real suspects and not laugh about some girl's sexual confessions to her friends...
Where did all the intel on 9-11 end up? On the desk of a**holes that didn't want to look stupid if it never came to fruition, so it was dismissed (covered up?) and thousands of Americans (as well as other citizens of the world) paid (and are paying) the price.
Professionalism in the intelligence community has been replaced with corporate-style toadyism. Less patriotic Jack Ryans and more fascist Dick (Ooops- I shot a guy, but he weren't a terrorist) Cheneys.
Let the REAL professionals- the guys doing the footwork- do their jobs, and the terrorist threat to the free world will be diminished. Micromanage from the top, and, well, you see what you get...

Not such a bleeding heart Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:48 PM

here's a question I haven"t seen addressed either here, or in the national media, tho' it's early yet: Who was behind this? Who benefits? This "terrorist" on a motor bike blew himself and 22 others and an ex- ruler and candidate in the forth-coming elections. Who was behind him? Who gave him the motor bike and explosives? Does anybody believe he acted truly solo, used the bike he used to ride to school and some dynamite he had laying around in the cellar? Does he represent Osama bin-Laden, or someone wronged by Bhutto while she ruled, or fundamentalis Muslims, or anti- American groups, or just what? Or was a he a toady of Mussharrif?

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