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I cannot believe I just SAW that!

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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:16 PM

Ok, bear with me here, non gamers might have a hard time following this.

One of the things I loved about Firefly was it's resemblance initially to Wing Commander: Privateer.

As of late, I've been looking for a game like that, but outside the scope of MMOs where like 4% of the server population (greifers, exploiters, general scum) tend to ruin the whole durn game experience for EVERYONE - it's no fun to spend hours on something only to have it all blown away in an instant by some giggling 15yr old in mommys basement getting his rocks off by ruining your fun, yes ?

So someone suggested Freelancer, but the single player was so horribly limited, and multiplayer options thoroughly dissappointing, not to mention being sunset in April 08 anyhow.

So I start downloading mods for it, finally ending up with "discovery freelancer ver 4.83"

I could not get 4.84 to work, vista refuses to acknowledge it as a compressed archive, and I swear vista is built off the HAL9000 engine.
"I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't do that.. dave."
Pyschotic control freak OpSys.. but I digress.

So I get DL 4.83 to work, right ?

And it has an "OpenSP" option allowing you to not have to log into someones multiplayer server with the griefers, scum and other annoyances... and just play around in your own little pocket universe, muchlike Privateer did.

Having a lot of fun with that, BTW... and so here I am, be-bopping along in my Rhineland Humpback Transport, chuggin me a load of cargo lookin for the phat payoff, and as I come to an intersection of jump gates and am pondering where to go from here... what crosses my path ?

A FEKKIN FIREFLY CLASS TRANSPORT!

My controller and my jaw hit the floor about simultaneously and all I could do for a minute was mutter something what sounded like "ugh gah ga bah?" as my brain just kinda temporarily exploded for a sec there.

By which time I'd lost it, cause I was gonna follow it to maybe find out where one can be had!
(I hope it's not NPC specific!)

I got to get me one of those!

And no, don't go askin me to play MMO on your server, please, I *like* being able to retreat to my pocket universe AWAY from other people, that's why I do it, lol.

Any idea where in DL4.83 I can find one for sale ?
Or steal one even ?

-Frem

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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:33 PM

Somehow I had never heard of Freelancer. I've been interested in a game experience even a little like Firefly for a few years but never really looked too hard since I figured it didn't exist. I'm sorry I can't help you but I have to say thanks for the heads up. Where do I get this mod your talking about and do you recommend the game to just anyone?

It's also nice to know I'm not the only one who prefers playing in their own little world. MMORPGs are horrible and a complete waste of money.

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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:52 PM

You could try the X series as well, none too shabby.

I'm surprised to hear of you using Vista though, I hope you didn't pay for it...



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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:20 PM

Well, freelancer isn't for everyone, I had a hard time getting past the no joystick thing myself, and it's fairly slow paced... space is big.

And the single player part of the unmodded game totally sucks bollocks, it lends pretense to open environ, but you cannot buy or equip anything worthwhile cause you are level-limited till you complete the missions, with of course, totally inferior weapons and ships which are not available (due to level limits) till AFTER you need them, by which time you need something heavier, which.. guess what, you can't get cause of... level limits!

I despise that crap (and how it makes the storyline fights ludicrously difficult) as much as I hate AI race opponents who can suddently do 300mph and make 90 degree turns without slowing down the moment they get behind you (called rubberbanding, that).

No sense getting it if yer not gonna mod it, imop

First thing you will need, copy of the game, cheap, easy to get just about anywhere.

Then you will need FLMM 1.44 which you get HERE
http://lancersreactor.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Essential_Downloads

DL Freelancer 4.83/4.84 are here.
http://discoveryfl.com/html/downloads.html

Download install FLMM.
Download 4.83 - unzip to it's own directory in the mods directory of FLMM.

Run FLMM, and activate 4.83 and make sure to enable OpenSP... and there you go.

And no, I didn't pay for Vista, my old PC blew the mainboard (STILL on backorder) and the crummy laptop I was on started to die and so we went to the store only to find out it was the day of the Vista rollout, and they *REFUSED* to sell me an XP machine (they were putting them in the compactor to destroy them! MS pays them to do this ??!) even when I offered a $250.00 USD bribe over the cost if they would.

We went everywhere and were met with flat refusal cause MS would shit a brick and apparently do something unpleasant if they bowed to the customer peon instead of the corporate lord...
Grrr

And yes, of course I immediately violated the EULA and started hacking the OS so that it does what I TELL IT TO DO (mostly) instead of telling me WHAT IT WILL DO and that's just too bad if I don't like it.

It's MY computer, in MY house, running on MY power, under MY control, I will do what I please with it, and if the operating system has a *problem* with the user not being it's slave, it DESERVES to be hacked... damn skynet wannabe.

*I* am the USER, the boss, the master, as far as this thing is concerned I am GOD (ever seen Tron?) and it WILL obey me, or else.

They day some piece of software I purchase to do something, refuses to do what I bought it for, and starts giving ME orders... and expecting me to TAKE them... is the day some OpSys gets it's butt kicked by some old-skool command line restructuring or source-code chop.

It's my program, I bought it, and IT WILL DO WHAT I TELL IT TO DO, not vice versa, or vice vista, to turn a pun, and I am NOT this machines bitch, as much as mister gates would like it that way.

Whew, sorry for the rant... but having fought a virtual brawl with this stupid operating system for months now over the right and ability to use my own hardware for my own intents and purposes without it's interference and thinking it knows better or it's own wants are more important has enraged me to the point of actual hatred.


-Frem

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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:32 PM

See that makes me happy I run an older pc with XP. I will never upgrade it and will probably not buy another PC for as long as I live. I think I could live without a computer sooner than I'd let one tell me what to do or fight one until it does what I want.

Anyway freelancer sounds interesting, thanks for the tips. Sounds like a pain in the arse to play it unmodded but I don't usually play PC games without mods.

Ok hopefully someone here can help you.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein

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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And no, I didn't pay for Vista, my old PC blew the mainboard (STILL on backorder) and the crummy laptop I was on started to die and so we went to the store only to find out it was the day of the Vista rollout, and they *REFUSED* to sell me an XP machine (they were putting them in the compactor to destroy them! MS pays them to do this ??!) even when I offered a $250.00 USD bribe over the cost if they would.

We went everywhere and were met with flat refusal cause MS would shit a brick and apparently do something unpleasant if they bowed to the customer peon instead of the corporate lord...
Grrr

And yes, of course I immediately violated the EULA and started hacking the OS so that it does what I TELL IT TO DO (mostly) instead of telling me WHAT IT WILL DO and that's just too bad if I don't like it.

It's MY computer, in MY house, running on MY power, under MY control, I will do what I please with it, and if the operating system has a *problem* with the user not being it's slave, it DESERVES to be hacked... damn skynet wannabe.

*I* am the USER, the boss, the master, as far as this thing is concerned I am GOD (ever seen Tron?) and it WILL obey me, or else.

They day some piece of software I purchase to do something, refuses to do what I bought it for, and starts giving ME orders... and expecting me to TAKE them... is the day some OpSys gets it's butt kicked by some old-skool command line restructuring or source-code chop.

It's my program, I bought it, and IT WILL DO WHAT I TELL IT TO DO, not vice versa, or vice vista, to turn a pun, and I am NOT this machines bitch, as much as mister gates would like it that way.

Whew, sorry for the rant... but having fought a virtual brawl with this stupid operating system for months now over the right and ability to use my own hardware for my own intents and purposes without it's interference and thinking it knows better or it's own wants are more important has enraged me to the point of actual hatred.

Not to mention all the back doors to the NSA and MS through the atapi.dll encryption. Use third party HDD encryption .

I've got Vista installed, because I got it free and I play the latest games that require DirectX 10. I've also just built a new machine with 8 cores and more memory than you can shake a 32bit OS at, and it's the only Windows system that will take full advantage of it. That and most of my software requires Windows.

I'm going to dual boot it with Linux though, probably elive, or ubuntu if that doesn't work. But I'll be waiting untill I get my second RAID array set up for that.



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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:53 AM

Siounds like a neat game, might try that if I go to gaming.
Why didn't you follow the Firefly - not like you'll lose anything?

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:00 AM

heh... everybody pays for vista... one way or the other...

freelancer is a brilliantly fun game tho (when modded) and theres a starwars version for all the starwars fans out there too...

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Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:20 AM

Hey Fremd, I just got Freelancer. So far, can't disagree with any of the points above. (as if I ever disagree with you)

Battles outside the New York system totally kick my ass. How the hell am I supposed to win against ten Outcasts with my POS ship? Especially, when they tag me with Wasp missiles, so I can't even run the hell away!

Some noober questions about mods:

1. Have you upgraded to Discovery 4.85, and if you have, does it include everything from the previous versions?

2. Can Discovery combine with any Star Wars mods? (Ooo, Y-wing!)

3. Do you know of any mods that pretty up the game? I know it's space and metal is grey and everything, but the textures just look so...bland.

4. And the long shot: Do know of any mods that let me build my own ship? The ship designs in the game are kinda hit and miss. Take for example - those Rhineland fighters that blockaded and attacked *gasp!* not far into the game. They looked fairly decent, like F4 Phantoms with the wings angled down a bit, except they had a big circle thing behind the tail! What the EWW??! Sometimes less is more.



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Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:31 AM

My fave pcs run 95 and 3.1

Mostly I use WP 5.2

I oft have blamed gamers for the onslaught of micro$haft.

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