40 lashes here, 200 lashes there.........
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 4, 2007 13:02
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Best thing to do for ANY barbaric nation? Put tarrifs on anything they sell: 10% for not being a democracy (w/ UN certified elections), 10% for not having equal rights written into law, 10% for not allowing free labor unions, 10% for polluting beyond their borders, 10% for having female literacy rates below that of men, and 25% for having troops in foreign nations that are not allies.
Why tarrifs? Because these nations are usually ruled by a a tyranny or monarchy that wants its cut of the action. If their goods suddenly don't sell as much because they're more expensive than somebody else's the total take at the top goes down. Harness their greed for the good.
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Always look upstream.
I like that....tariffs...sure. I'm ready for blockades already. A few countries consume almost all the oil in the world, THESE countries should SET the price of oil & TELL Opec what they'll pay for it. Call it OPIC...Organization of Petrolium Importing Countries. Where else they gonna sell their damn oil? North Korea...fine...we blockade their tankers and they will have to sell to us at the price WE set...and fuck Wall Street too... Fucking OIL should not be traded like orange juice futures.
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"Where else they gonna sell their damn oil?"
China. It would be only too happy to not have to compete to buy oil.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Best thing to do for ANY barbaric nation? Put tarrifs on anything they sell: 10% for not being a democracy (w/ UN certified elections), 10% for not having equal rights written into law, 10% for not allowing free labor unions, 10% for polluting beyond their borders, 10% for having female literacy rates below that of men, and 25% for having troops in foreign nations that are not allies.
Why tarrifs? Because these nations are usually ruled by a a tyranny or monarchy that wants its cut of the action. If their goods suddenly don't sell as much because they're more expensive than somebody else's the total take at the top goes down. Harness their greed for the good.
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Always look upstream.
Sounds like a good idea. Only question I have is; would we still have to pay the 25% even after we installed a friendly government.
"Rock Chalk, Jayhawk, KU"
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"you are at an impasse."
That is where cleverness and force of personality come into the picture, Fred...
And it's not half as hard as anyone would think cause a lotta folk in their hearts WANT to be convinced, cause they're tired of takin shit from these goons.
Problem is - you attack outright, you lose em, they side with what they know, what they've known all their life, betting on the devil they do know over the one they don't.
You gotta be slick, get em to question what they believe, why they believe it, to question those assumptions.. and while they're anesthesised by that confusion, you slide in the knife so subtle and easy they never realize some mental surgery is taking place.. pick places they're already pissed, annoyed, dissappointed with, and argue for and against them, nodding when they get on the rails of their pet bitch and agreeing they've got a point as you lead em right down the garden path into starting to look at these goons as a pain in the ass instead of friends and protectors....
And then you leave it be, let em struggle with the new course of their thoughts so that they accept it as their own idea rather than an outside influance which they'll reject.
And you move on to the next one, and after a bit, sure as the sun comes up they'll start discussing those ideas with each other...
And about that time, you get out of town, make yourself scarce, lay low for a bit, cause it won't be very long from that point that all hell breaks loose, some confrontation with those goons that in the end only serves to reinforce exactly what they've already begun to think, to calcify it in their minds - and what follows that, is just about inevitable.
And THAT, folks, is when you start handing out the hardware, to folks who will remember you quite ever so fondly for it.
Or.. you can attack head on and get your ass handed to you by all of em...
Up to you.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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It’s her own idiot fault (the teacher, not the rape victim).
I am in full agreement about the ludicrousness of the rape incident, but anyone who names a bear Mohammed in a public environment in a Muslim country needs some sense hitting into them.
Muslim countries are different from Western countries; everyone in the world knows that. So a wise person who decides to immigrate to a Muslim country (oxymoron?) would surely do some research into the little nuances that make the country different from her own. And surely at some point that person would stumble upon the religious aspects of life in Muslim country, which would in turn lead her to a few stories about a man named Mohammed.
I thought that most people knew that Mohammed is the most important person in the Islamic faith and as such it is a word anyone not of Muslim faith should avoid at all costs for fear of offending an easily offended people in some way. (Hell, I probably offended a few Muslim’s just then, who knows?)
Anyway, by now the person should be thinking to herself, “Remember that name, note it down as a major ‘buzz word’ and don’t use it without first seeking the advice of a resident Muslim.”
So, when her pupils say to her, “Let’s name a stuffed bear Mohammed”, alarm bells should have starting going off her head. Really big, really loud alarm bells.
Then she could have gone to any Muslim, anywhere, and they would have told her that giving the name of the prophet Mohammed to an inanimate object is a very unwise thing to do indeed. Call it Steve instead; no-one’s bothered about a bear called Steve.
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Quote:Good question! Heh! I was wondering if anyone would catch that. By my rules: no.
Sounds like a good idea. Only question I have is; would we still have to pay the 25% even after we installed a friendly government.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
That is where cleverness and force of personality come into the picture, Fred...
And that is where I'd have to step out then.
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Originally posted by SpaceHopper:
It’s her own idiot fault (the teacher, not the rape victim).
I am in full agreement about the ludicrousness of the rape incident, but anyone who names a bear Mohammed in a public environment in a Muslim country needs some sense hitting into them.
Muslim countries are different from Western countries; everyone in the world knows that. So a wise person who decides to immigrate to a Muslim country (oxymoron?) would surely do some research into the little nuances that make the country different from her own. And surely at some point that person would stumble upon the religious aspects of life in Muslim country, which would in turn lead her to a few stories about a man named Mohammed.
I thought that most people knew that Mohammed is the most important person in the Islamic faith and as such it is a word anyone not of Muslim faith should avoid at all costs for fear of offending an easily offended people in some way. (Hell, I probably offended a few Muslim’s just then, who knows?)
Anyway, by now the person should be thinking to herself, “Remember that name, note it down as a major ‘buzz word’ and don’t use it without first seeking the advice of a resident Muslim.”
So, when her pupils say to her, “Let’s name a stuffed bear Mohammed”, alarm bells should have starting going off her head. Really big, really loud alarm bells.
Then she could have gone to any Muslim, anywhere, and they would have told her that giving the name of the prophet Mohammed to an inanimate object is a very unwise thing to do indeed. Call it Steve instead; no-one’s bothered about a bear called Steve.
Hello,
I strongly disagree. It is not intuitive that Mohammed (sp?) is a wrong name for a bear. After the flap over Danish cartoons, one might think that even mentioning Mohammed is a crime. However, the most popular kid in that teacher's class was named Mohammed. Why, then, would any rational individual think that naming a bear Mohammed is a problem? Clearly, Mohammed is a name commonly given to people who are not the famed prophet. Why not bears?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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A quick search seems to indicate that Saudi Arabia has sharia law. They don't call it sharia law (out loud), but the Quran was adopted as the constitution.
Yep, Bush's friends, the Saudis have sharia law.
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Hello,
In a decade, maybe two, maybe five...
The oil will run out. The people who thought it was better to buy 20 mansions instead of infrastructure will be broke. The Arab nations will no longer matter to the world.
They will either become a (more) horrid 3rd world country at that time, or they will adapt.
What they will no longer be able to do is push people around. They will have no power or bargaining position whatsoever, no political influence at all.
I only wish we could give up our reliance on oil tomorrow, to speed up the process. Imagine the shock if we could boycott oil purchases whenever we didn't like the prices or policies behind them...
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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