Funny Taser Video
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 19:48
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Since Hero thinks that Taser videos are funny, he should find this one a hoot!
A video showing the last moments of a Polish immigrant, who died after Canadian police shot him with a stun gun at Vancouver International Airport, has been made public.Quote:
This image from video shows an agitated Robert Dziekanski, left, before police used a stun gun on him. Robert Dziekanski, 40, was traveling to join his mother, who lives in British Columbia, when he ended up spending about 10 hours in the airport's arrivals area, The Canadian Press said.
The video shows Dziekanski, who had never flown before, becoming agitated. It then shows Mounties purportedly shocking Robert Dziekanski with a Taser device after confronting him. Dziekanski did not speak English. The recording was captured by bystander Paul Pritchard on October 14 and was in police hands until he threatened legal action and it was returned to him last week, The Canadian Press reported.
"Probably the most disturbing part is one of the officers uses his leg and his knee to pin his neck and his head to the ground," Pritchard told CBC News. The dead man's mother, Zofia Cisowski, told CBC News that Tasers should not be used by police.
"They should do something because that is a killer, a people killer."
www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/15/taser.death/index.html
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Yeah... that's hilarious....?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Since Hero thinks that Taser videos are funny, he should find this one a hoot!
The part where they taser him is funny, the part where he dies is not funny thus proving the age old saying about it all being funny till somebody dies.
The story did not seem allege a direct connection between the taser and the death. In fact they note the most disturbing part being the physical restraint of the man after being tasered by undue pressure to the head and neck. Perhaps more liberal use of the taser would have made the dangerous physical contact unecessary.
I would also suggest that if the Canadians were better trained and more capable of handling physical violence, this would not have happened.
Some folk might want to make a comment about the irony of a Polish guy getting himself killed by a nonlethal devise...but that would be wrong...I oppose such comments.
H
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Originally posted by Hero:
Some folk might want to make a comment about the irony of a Polish guy getting himself killed by a nonlethal devise...but that would be wrong...I oppose such comments.
I watched the video........
First thought was how very unfortunate
Then, why was he "detained" for 10 hours?
Who wouldn't go "nuts" being detained that long?
I probably would start hurling things around if somebody held me for 1o hours.
He seemed to be making a gesture indicating surrender....really unclear why he was tasered.
What am I missing Hero in terms of this being ironic?
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
What am I missing Hero in terms of this being ironic?
Why is it ironic? Clearly you have no idea how many Polish folk it takes to change a lightbulb or have never walked into a bar with a Polish man, a priest, and Osama Bin Ladden.
Not that I myself would ever make such comments...but I've heard them...on Comedy Central I think...
H
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You're right...I don't. Been a long time since I was in the 2nd grade.
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Lemme guess... cause of death listed...
"Excited Delerium"
Right ?
Perfectly safe and effective, right ?
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I had the impression that he waited there because his mom said she would meet him there, and then she couldn't get there because of security precautions, and eventually just went home because she was told he was not in the airport. Not that he was detained.
Could be just that he was in language/culture shock, but I also wonder if perhaps he had some mental problems that contributed to his inability to handle the situation or respond to gentle overtures from fellow travelers. Poor, poor man.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Since Hero thinks that Taser videos are funny, he should find this one a hoot!
I note for the record that I said I'd never seen a taser video that wasn't a little funny. Now I have. Like everything else in the world, there's always tragedy waiting to happen.
I have decided to revise and extend my earlier comments on this topic. Last night I had the opportunity to review the entire video and listen to the testimony of the witness. Two things are readily apparent.
1. The man was completely out of control and security handled it well be cordoning him off and calling for police support. I think the Airport security should be commended for their good handling of the situation, particularly their restrait (they could have piled on and used physical violence and I would not have blamed them...guy was throwing furnature and computers).
2. Upon the arrival of the police the man's demeanor changed dramatically. He was no longer demonstrative, seemed to calm down a great deal, and seemed to desire to coopoerate to the best of his ability given the language barrier. The police responded appropriately in that they attempted to get him to comply and when he did not comply with orders they tasered him.
That said the police failed to take into account his language problem, despite being told and it being readily apparent. They did not take into account his non-aggressive demeanor. The seemed to act too quickly, with incomplete information, and without regard to the totality of the circumstances. They then failed to percieve the man's medical distress and failed to act in a timely manner to attempt to mitigate his condition.
I understand the need, particularly in airports and such, to act quickly and decisivly, and I believe this was the goal of the officers, never the less I found this incident to be inappropriate from the moment the decision is made to initiate a violent physical confrontation with a tasered man.
I view this incident in the light most favorable to the police, but still reach that conclusion.
At best they demonstrate a simple lack of judgement likely from poor training, leadership, or policies, at worst criminal negligence.
There is nothing funny here. It is a tragedy that can be best avoided by good training and good disipline by law enforcement officers. I'm happy to say my City has both making the rare use of the taser (normally the threat is enough) safe and enjoyable for everyone (usually with one exception).
H
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And don't forget this one, tasered for the crime of being unconscious in a diabetic coma:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic
le_id=494199&in_page_id=1770
And the nice woman tasered to death for talking in an airport:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/phoenix.airport.death/
Plus 500 other dead bodies electrocuted to death by police state death squads.
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