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Freelanerex Wrote
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That's why they fired that director after the first movie and hired a new one :) who I must say did a 1000x better job on the sequels.
They fired Robert Wise? Really? He who directed some of the classics of cinema: Day the Earth Stood Still, Sound of Music, West Side Story, The Haunting and The Andromeda Strain... Man the balls on the Exec who put that notion through....!
I have to say I really liked the first Star Trek movie, it's one of the few that I can re-watch and it keeps me gripped all the way through. Surprisingly Undiscovered Country is the other. Not sure why possibly because the direction is tighter.
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Originally posted by freelancertex:
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totally forgot about Wild Wild West, guess I tried to block it from memory, can't stand that movie, and I love Will Smith.
You may want to have a look at this little anecdote from Kevin Smith about the 'origins' of Wild, Wild West. It's very funny. A bit long but he's a good talker. Hope you like.
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Quote:Both are complete stories; they depend on no other movie to keep answering questions- ST2 leads into ST3, which leads into 4, and 5...well, 5 is just a mess. I would have like Shatner to get the chance to fix it, but alas, even the fan base didn't rally for that. Tant pis.
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I have to say I really liked the first Star Trek movie, it's one of the few that I can re-watch and it keeps me gripped all the way through. Surprisingly Undiscovered Country is the other. Not sure why possibly because the direction is tighter.
Also, Khan's high-eighties-hairspray doo bugged me to no end...
The Botany Bay was not a salon Chrisisall
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Pirates ... :At World's End
The last 2 1/2 hours of this 3+ hour epic piece of convoluted crap made question whether I would ever watch another movie again. It started with Depp's acid trip induced jaunt through "World's End". Then having the only piece of female eye candy (Kiera Knightly) wearing an asian inspired tent and pointy hat throughout the whole movie angered me even further.
At last the final sword fight on the mast that was going down a friggin massive whirlpool was just stupid. I wish I could be more eloquent about the level of stupidity that was reached during that scene, but I can't.
The most massive waste of well-done CG effects in the history of western civilization. Three Serenity sequels could have been made with what was spent on this steaming pile of excrement. I feel dumber for having sat through this vapid pool of dung. Gore Verbinski owes me $8 and 3 1/2 hours of my life.
Other than that, it was pretty good.
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Originally posted by Chrisisall:
Ummm...he wasn't 'fired'. He was not hired to make the next one 3 years later- there's a difference.
excuse me for not making the distinction from that tiny technicality. I don't want to sound rude, but in my mind if you're doing a series of movies and you don't hire the director from the first one to direct the REST, either he wasn't available, or he was pretty damn bad. The first Star Trek movie had me tearing my hair out wishing it would be over.
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
They fired Robert Wise? Really? He who directed some of the classics of cinema: Day the Earth Stood Still, Sound of Music, West Side Story, The Haunting and The Andromeda Strain... Man the balls on the Exec who put that notion through....!
Well, if he directed those other movies, he must have been smoking something when he directed ST1, my god..the loss of brain cells he had to sustain... On the flip, to the other portion of your post, I liked Undiscovered Country as well :) it was pretty cool, and I kinda liked how it ended.
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I thought "Requiem for a Dream" and "Crash" were two of the best movies ever made; and there are no words to express my disappointment at "Spiderman 3" and "X-Men 3" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 3." They were all just bad, on several levels. (Why, O WHY does Hollywood feel the need to follow up great movies with utter crap for sequels? With this mad obsession with trilogies never END!?)
But the grand stinker, the moment I absolutely could not take any more, was in that God-awful "Punch Drunk Love" with Adam Sandler, where his character drives (or maybe he flies, I don't remember exactly, but it was a long freaking way) all the way to Utah to confront the matress store owner, all the way clutching a phone receiver, just for a few lines of dialogue. And for what? Supposedly it was a "dark comedy," but that whole movie was just ridiculous, and not in a funny way. Pathetic.
On a distantly-related note, have y'all seen "Death at a Funeral?" British comedy. A lot of it's lame, some of it's pretty funny, but our Alan really steals the show.
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Originally posted by BlueBomber:
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I thought "Requiem for a Dream" and "Crash" were two of the best movies ever made.
Hi BlueBomber.
May I just ask what it is about these two films that lead you to feel they are two of the best movies ever made? I ask not to lash out or attack or fly contrary for the sake of an arguement, I promise, I am genuinely intrigued. (Oh and for clarity are you refering to the Cronenberg 'Crash'?)
Cheers
The Somnambulist
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Quote:Phasers locked; FIRE!!!
Originally posted by freelancertex:
The first Star Trek movie had me tearing my hair out wishing it would be over.
(don't worry- they were on stun
)ST:TMP is a serious, heady visualfest- not so much the swashbuckling and more the REAL science fiction.
Sci-Fi Action fans can't get into it for that reason, I guess.
I also like 2001, Silent Running and Solaris. But don't look at these flicks, Free, unless you need to sleep.
Cheeky Chrisisall
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Just to sort of set the record for everyone as to the shift in tone and personnel between THE MOTION PICTURE and THE WRATH OF KHAN, the first movie took forever to get made. First it was going to be a movie, and then it became a series called PHASE II, with the same cast as well as some newcomers. Basically an earlier incarnation of THE NEXT GENERATION. STAR WARS came out, so forget the series, we're going to do a movie.
During this time, dozens of writers were hired to write various scripts with different plots, all under the helm of Gene Roddennberry. Wise was chosen because of his impressive resume, which while it had sci-fi in it, he wasn't familiar with summer blockbusters. So while the movie did eventually get made, Wise and Roddenberry took so long to make it and alienated the studio while they were at it and delivered 2001, which is great, but they were expecting STAR WARS.
So after the somewhat lackluster reaction, they decided to not have Gene back to produce, but to bring in Harve Bennett, who wasn't too big a fan of the first movie, to basically simplify production and to make it "less boring". And after the great reaction to WRATH, him and Nick Meyer were more or less in charge of the franchise, while Gene went off to create NEXT GENERATION.
So the reason why TMP felt like real STAR TREK was because it was the only movie to have direct input from him. After that, his contributions to the movies became less and less. That's not to say what Harve and Nick did with the classic characters was bad. It was just a different tone. Less weighty meaning, more action.
And as for FINAL FRONTIER, I'm always willing to give that movie a pass because it's an example of a big, idealistic movie being hampered from beginning to end on different fronts. Strikes, less money, production problems, studio interference, you name, it the movie had it. In a parallel universe, it probably is considered the best TREK movie.
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Quote:It's scary how much we have in common regarding classic Trek.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
And as for FINAL FRONTIER, I'm always willing to give that movie a pass because it's an example of a big, idealistic movie being hampered from beginning to end on different fronts. Strikes, less money, production problems, studio interference, you name, it the movie had it. In a parallel universe, it probably is considered the best TREK movie.
Are you also looking foward the the re-mastered episodes with the enhanced FX?
I'll find a difference of opinion yet Chrisisall
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