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Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:20 PM

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Originally posted by traveler:
The very first Star Trek movie. They spent five minutes just flying around the Enterprise so evryone could see the great job they did with this special effect.

I loved that scene and the whole movie in general- The Director's Cut is one of my top ten favourites of all time, you Denebian slime devil!!

Tiberiusisall


I was there at Grauman's Chinese theater on Dec. 7, 1979, and that was the scene that had my jaw on the floor!
My buddy from the hobby shop couldn't stop talking about it, and when he bought one o' them newfangled LaserDisc players and hooked it up to his SurroundSound system, ST:TMP was the first title he bought.
He invited me over, and we jumped straight to the DryDock sequence! We were in hog heaven!

And in my theater, Persis Khambatta's appearance was quite literally breathtaking: A lot of sucking-in of breath and long Ooooooooh's.
That woman had the most gorgeous pate!

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:40 PM

I'm with you on that. I always liked ST:TMP a lot more than some of the more popular sequels. Mainly because TMP served as an introduction to the classic STAR TREK crew, as well as just the tone and ideas behind it were a bit more lofty for a typical sci-fi blockbuster. It reminded me a lot of 2001, in that it was very visual and that it dealt with the same themes of man's place in the universe and finding a deeper meaning. I don't really remember sensing that in WRATH OF KHAN which basically ripped off STAR WARS.

And speaking of STAR WARS, people seem to forget than an even worse movie came out that same summer. I would rather sit through the SW prequels on a loop and strapped to a CLOCKWORK ORANGE chair than to see one minute of WILD WILD WEST. That movie is still without a doubt in my mind my yardstick for measuring bad movie. A complete failure on every aspect. I wouldn't be surprised if they use that movie as a method of torture in Guantanamo Bay.

Thatwas one movie I wish I had walked out of.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:37 PM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
I always liked ST:TMP a lot more than some of the more popular sequels. Mainly because TMP served as an introduction to the classic STAR TREK crew, as well as just the tone and ideas behind it were a bit more lofty for a typical sci-fi blockbuster. It reminded me a lot of 2001, in that it was very visual and that it dealt with the same themes of man's place in the universe and finding a deeper meaning. I don't really remember sensing that in WRATH OF KHAN

Thank you, THANK YOU!!!!!!
Regina, have you seen the Director's cut? It's even better than the theatrical release!!! I love what Robert Wise wrote in the inner pamphlet, about time travel- that he'd gotten a chance to go back and truly finish it! So cool!

V'ger is a child...Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:54 PM

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:54 PM

Seen it? I HAVE it in my collection. That and UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, which I feel is the strongest of the sequels.

"Each of us... at some time in our lives, turns to someone - a father, a brother, a God... and asks...”Why am I here? What was I meant to be?"

I dunno. Maye if I see WRATH OF KHAN again, I'll dig it more. But for the time being, 1 and 6 are my favorites.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:04 PM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:


I dunno. Maye if I see WRATH OF KHAN again, I'll dig it more. But for the time being, 1 and 6 are my favorites.


It's good for an adrenaline rush, but yeah, 1 & 6 are best, and in that order.
Trek, to me, was always at it's best when it had a message beneath the story...WRATH was just a cool slugging match.

Agreeing Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:10 PM

Okay, I wasn’t going to say anything, because I’m such a huge fan of the original series that I might be biased, but ST:the Movie was one of my favorites. I thought it really captured the theme of the original story but it lacked the feel. One of the problems with many Star Trek following the original series is that they have tried to shed the inherent militarism in the show. The original series embraced this militarism, and of course as a military or para-military vessel, this not only made sense, but provided a consistent sense of swashbuckling to accompany the more intellectual side of the story.

I also like the Wrath of Khan. Partly because I really liked Ricardo Montalban as Khan and I thought it made a great contrast with the previous movie - showing the military side of Star Trek. The two movies together are like the yin and yang of Star Trek, somehow isolated from one another.

The next two movies went far a field of the original concept, not that they were bad, but they just weren’t in tune with the original story. Star Trek 5, despite being widely considered sub par, was the first Star Trek that truly put the original story in shape with both that sense of exploration and military structure. Unfortunately, it’s painful to watch. By Star Trek 6, however, they finally got everything right, with both the militarist side of the story, as well as the intellectual side, submerged in political arguments representing events of the time, and foreshadowing the fall of Communism. Although, in 1991, it wasn’t that difficult to see the fall of Soviet communism, but still.



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Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
ST:the Movie was one of my favorites. I thought it really captured the theme of the original story but it lacked the feel.

The only thing I didn't like about ST: TMP was the costumes (notice I didn't say uniforms). They were just too casual for a semi or para-military wessle.
Other than that, it's pure gold IMO.

Carbon unit Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:56 PM

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Originally posted by Traveler:
The very first Star Trek movie. They spent five minutes just flying around the Enterprise so evryone could see the great job they did with this special effect.



That's why they fired that director after the first movie and hired a new one :) who I must say did a 1000x better job on the sequels.

>>totally forgot about Wild Wild West, guess I tried to block it from memory, can't stand that movie, and I love Will Smith.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:

That's why they fired that director after the first movie and hired a new one :) who I must say did a 1000x better job on the sequels.

Ummm...he wasn't 'fired'. He was not hired to make the next one 3 years later- there's a difference. And the next director made only 2 movies, many sequels apart.
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>>totally forgot about Wild Wild West, guess I tried to block it from memory, can't stand that movie, and I love Will Smith.


If you love Will, you must be seeing I Am Legend out soon, eh?

Chrisisall

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