Heroes 2.1 (or wherever...)
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Well we finally got some of the story between last year's finale and the beginning of season 2.
I really did not believe Peter's amnesia was caused by the Haitian, though in retrospect the necklace was a dead giveaway. His dealings with Adam have me thinking that Adam is the type who speaks 90% truthfully. That is how he gets people to go along with his ideas. The problems occur when his accomplices figure out what the other 10% entails.
That Elle is a twisted little mynx. Granted she had a difficult upbringing(if we assume she told the truth) but it is hard to excuse her sadistic and domineering behavior.
DL's death was so damn pointless. I was actually hoping that Jessica/Nikki/Gina lost control due to the medication but getting shot by some punk is down right annoying.
Wasn't this episode also supposed to explain what happened with Sylar? There was nothing on him until the story shifted back to the present.
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Considering she's so well-loved by fandom in general, couldn't they have made Kristen Bell a little more likable? Then again, I can't blame her for wanting a change in pace.
D.L.'s death kinda made sense to me. Here Nikki has worked so hard to keep her family together, been through so many amazing and terrifying things, and then her husband's killed in a senseless act of violence.
What I wonder about Adam is what his reaction will be once he sees Hiro. Then again, the fact that it was probably him who killed Hiro's dad speaks volumes. Guy sure knows how to hold a grudge. It's only been what, three centuries and some change? 
The Company keeps throwing curve balls at us. Adam says that he tried to go public, but they stopped him. They say he can control weather or some such (can't remember the exact quote, but seem to recall Bob saying something to Nathan about it) and that Linderman and Matt's dad were his disciples. Who's really being truthful, or is truth a luxury at this juncture?
I noticed during one of the commercials they had a "Create The Next Hero" thing online. With the strike going on, I wonder how this will be affected (since they couldn't feasibly air a new hero until after things have been resolved)?
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Originally posted by singate:
I really did not believe Peter's amnesia was caused by the Haitian, though in retrospect the necklace was a dead giveaway.
I just knew it was the Haitian. As you said the necklace was a dead giveaway and who else have we met at this point that can extract memories as he does? Seems he was trying to do Peter a good turn. Didn't work out too well, but it was not done with any sort of malicious intent.
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Originally posted by singate:
His dealings with Adam have me thinking that Adam is the type who speaks 90% truthfully. That is how he gets people to go along with his ideas. The problems occur when his accomplices figure out what the other 10% entails.
Agreed. I am still trying to figure out what Adam is all about. I don't think it is as simple as revenge and I do get the feeling he is somehow twisted and trying to save the world, but in such a manner where he is calling the shots. So far we have not seen any exhibition of power from him other than healing and longevity.
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Originally posted by singate:
That Elle is a twisted little mynx. Granted she had a difficult upbringing(if we assume she told the truth) but it is hard to excuse her sadistic and domineering behavior.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. If what she says is true, I can see why she has issues. It would also explain why she is such a dedicated bloodhound to the Company. New twist for Kristen Bell, but an interesting one.
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Originally posted by singate:
DL's death was so damn pointless. I was actually hoping that Jessica/Nikki/Gina lost control due to the medication but getting shot by some punk is down right annoying.
That is what I took away from that too Singate, that DL's death was complete pointless and seemed to be forced just to get rid of his character. He phases to avoid a punch, but doesn't phase when the guy comes back looking for more? That was lame and so poorly written.
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Originally posted by singate:
Wasn't this episode also supposed to explain what happened with Sylar? There was nothing on him until the story shifted back to the present.
Well we didn't get anything on Sylar, but we did get back story on Maya and Alejandro that filled in some of the blanks. That's something I guess.
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The Elle character - and the way KB is playing her - is interesting. She's supposed to be 25, right? She acts like a much younger person, given to pulling wings off flies and stirring up trouble between people just because it fights the boredom. Not a lot of depth behind those eyes. Logical given her story of a life lived behind bars, without normal human contact.
I think KB is doing a wonderful job of portraying a person who is scary because she is so immature and therefore unpredictable.
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DL's death was really bad. As someone pointed out above, he phased for a punch, which was essentially thrown unprovoked, in a darkened room. yet when they gey comes back, in a bright stairwell, with a scowl on his face, pulls a gun, presses it to DL and pauses before firing - and he didn't think to phase? Huh?
The other thing that bugged me about that scene, and it's strictly a production error - but it bugged me - was how the blood hit Nikki. DL was on her left, but when he gets shot, the blood splatters on the right side of her face. Sloppy work.
Otherwise, I actually thought tis was one of the best episodes in what has been, IMO, a lackluster season.
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Quote:It seems even more likely now.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It now seems more likely that the Haitian could be responsible for Peter’s memory loss.
And DL has shown a difficulty in phasing for high velocity impacts. This isn’t the first time he’s been shot, just the first time it killed him. And I sort of like how he went. It was pointless, but it provided the perfect vehicle to drive Nikki into the company of the Company.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And DL has shown a difficulty in phasing for high velocity impacts. This isn’t the first time he’s been shot, just the first time it killed him. And I sort of like how he went. It was pointless, but it provided the perfect vehicle to drive Nikki into the company of the Company.
When has he shown trouble phasing high velocity objects? The first time he was shot, he took the bullet intentionally, to save Nikki. That was not the case here.
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Quote:Well he was shot by Nikki.
Originally posted by Storymark:
When has he shown trouble phasing high velocity objects? The first time he was shot, he took the bullet intentionally, to save Nikki. That was not the case here.
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Quote:Actually, while it saddened me (especially for Mica), it was one of those Wash-like randomnesses that points out that dumb s**t happens, and it seemed real to me.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
This isn’t the first time he’s been shot, just the first time it killed him. And I sort of like how he went.
Loved the ep Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:Well he was shot by Nikki.
Originally posted by Storymark:
When has he shown trouble phasing high velocity objects? The first time he was shot, he took the bullet intentionally, to save Nikki. That was not the case here.
True, I forgot that. But she (and the writers) made a point of doing so from far away, so he wouldn't see it coming. She didn't put the gun against his gut and look him in the eye before firing.
Chalk it up to poor editing at the least, but I felt it was a completely false moment, given what was already established about the character.
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