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Monday, September 23, 2002 2:15 AM

I was also impressed with the mildy retro look they achieved with the costuming. I noticed that not only does Mal wear braces, they button on the outside of his pants, not on the inside. This is the way it would have been done during the period of western expansion. Lest I come across as a compleat nerd, the reason I know this is because I happen to wear braces, and I have to sew the buttons on myself.

I noticed that the sheriff's uniform in The Train Job looked just like one any a modern cop would wear, and why not? It's very servicable. As for the Alliance wearing fancy uniforms, and that somehow defining them almost too simplistically as bad guys, it's a good point, but just the same not having them wear such uniforms would just not work. It's no coincidence that we see a fancy, somewhat impractical uniform as a sign of fascism. In terms of the psychology of clothing, fascism practically is the state of affairs in which the cops dress better than you do. It would just be psychologically strange for the Alliance not to wear the jackboots, as it were.

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Monday, September 23, 2002 3:05 AM

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Originally posted by NoVaGrAsS:
Season 4, Xander used the bathroom in Restless. It's a funny, funny scene. There's also a scene in season 5 where Joyce comes out of an unseen master bathroom while she's packing for her night at the hospital.--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--



Even earlier--in "Who Are You" (4.16)--we see it when Faith, in Buffy's body, is taking a bath. I haven't noticed one earlier than that (although we do see the bathroom at Sunnydale High at the end of Season One).

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Monday, September 23, 2002 3:22 AM

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Originally posted by JohnnyAngel:
As for the Alliance wearing fancy uniforms, and that somehow defining them almost too simplistically as bad guys, it's a good point, but just the same not having them wear such uniforms would just not work.

The Alliance uniforms are one of the few things I disliked. Derivative -- but I'm holding off because I know how Joss likes to set-up the cliche and then bend it and break it. The dark hues scream "Evil fascist government!" but I trust we'll soon see that the Alliance isn't the caricature the uniforms would suggest.

Can't they just all wear aloha shirts? Now that would be cliche-busting.

--- Joe

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Monday, September 23, 2002 4:04 PM

I was actually commenting on the costumes to my roomate while we watched the episode. I asked her why bad guys in Sci-fi always dressed like Nazis. About ten minutes later she said "I know . . . because Nazis are evil?" Sage point.

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Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:44 PM

I am a history buff and a science fiction adimirer. The costumes in FIREFLY are great, I mean I don't really have a problem with the Star Trek ones, but the firefly ones help the show in a tremendous way, I really feel like I'm watching a futuristic western! This show is Great and so are the Costumes, well I am done...

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Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by mojoeca:
kinda sorta on topic...

I wonder if Joss will dispense with one particular sci-fi cliche: Will we actually *see* bathrooms on Serenity?



Actually, yes. That particular topic was brought up in an interview and a toilet actually appears in the "Serenity" pilot. Toilets are basically pull-out drawers for seats.

Just my dos pesos,

Rex!

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Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:53 PM

i can't believe we've gotten this many posts in this thread and nobody has yet commented on the ridiculous jump-out-and-scream-at-you blue dishwashing gloves...

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Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:39 PM

I wondered about those gloves. I might could understand navy blue, but what the heck do you call that color?

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Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:55 AM

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Originally posted by ilovejayne:
I wondered about those gloves. I might could understand navy blue, but what the heck do you call that color?



Playtex Living Glove Blue.

Jeff
Who remembers the old commercials.

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Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:35 AM

Velcro! Velcroooo!!!

C'mon, it'll still be around. It's just too handy.

As for the blue gloves, I'm probably just being silly (so what else is new) but that sounds like a pretty good identification for whatever nasty little agency these guys come from. They can't be stolen from one's pocket like a normal ID and they are instantly recognizable. Then again, maybe they just needed a rhyme for "two" and "ears of blue" didn't seem to work.

I love the fact that Mal is a belt-and-suspenders man. Cautious, prepared.

I agree that the Alliance uniforms are a bit scary, but what we've seen of them seems to be the military branch anyway. So far, as long as the Academy that held River is working under cover (which is implied by what I've seen but then I haven't seen the pilot) rather than openly supported by the Alliance government, I figure the Alliance is more of an annoying bureaucracy than a real repressive government.

Inside every cynic there's an idealist desperately yearning to be let out, and when they are let out they're usually a real pain and cause all sorts of trouble. --Chris Boucher

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