Common or annoying characterization mistakes
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UPDATED: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:13
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Originally posted by Steamer:
Jayne the gentle giant. Sure, there were a couple of times in the show and the movie when he expressed true concern for another member of the crew; but by and large, Jayne cares about very little besides himself and his money. And Vera. So it kinda makes me shake my head when I read a long scene - or a long succession of short scenes - where Jayne is being Mr. Nice Guy, looks like he's on the verge of sitting on the bed next to distraught Kaylee, hugging her and rocking her to sleep. (Yes, I know you Jaylee fans go
bibbledy over scenes like that, but that's just me.) I just can't see that kind of behaviour from Jayne; frankly, nor can I see him falling in love with anyone or anything besides a boatload of cold, hard cash.
Oh, YES!!! Thank you for bringing that up! That is an absolute pet-peeve of mine (along with the captian-daddy syndrom).
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Originally posted by Steamer:
Jayne the gentle giant. Sure, there were a couple of times in the show and the movie when he expressed true concern for another member of the crew; but by and large, Jayne cares about very little besides himself and his money. And Vera. So it kinda makes me shake my head when I read a long scene - or a long succession of short scenes - where Jayne is being Mr. Nice Guy, looks like he's on the verge of sitting on the bed next to distraught Kaylee, hugging her and rocking her to sleep. (Yes, I know you Jaylee fans go
bibbledy over scenes like that, but that's just me.
ditto. Also, I hate seeing Kaylee as either childish or slutty. Grr... arrrgh...
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I agree with the Kaylee issue, BIBP.
Also, when River is either this psycho-crazy woman -ALL THE TIME- or a little delicate flower -ALL THE TIME- or stuff like that. River has many faces- there's the sweet, sunny girl she was pre-acadamy, there's when she's having one of her fits, or when she's an assassin... the list goes on and on.
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Originally posted by bullet0in0the0brainpan0squish:
ditto. Also, I hate seeing Kaylee as either childish or slutty. Grr... arrrgh...
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What's slutty, by your definition?
We know Kaylee places value on sex and she's not overly picky, what with Bester.
Can that be classified as "slutty"? By some people.
Does it make Kaylee immoral? To some people.
Does it bother most people? No. [s]They get more hung up about Inara's profession, generally.[/s]
So, what's a slutty portrayal to you?
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I don't mean slutty as in "sexy". Sexy is good, and a sexy fic is certainly welcome. What I mean is I hate seeing Kaylee portrayed as someone who has no other preoccupation than looking to get laid. She is a brilliant mechanic, a bubbly woman radiating with personality, and I just hate seeing her shown as someone's "bimbo-mechanic" fantasy. Kaylee has a richness to her and not letting that take flesh makes the character not very Kaylee.
Also, I may be biased on this point, but I don't like reading her as aggressive-aggressive towards Simon (or any other ship actually). I like to think that she wins 'em over with her sunny personality so she doesn't need to push herself on them. But well, that's me.^^
One further addendum, though it's off the Kaylee topic
: I don't like a petulant Wash. He creeps me out.hehe
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
Xeyra - I'm so with you! The Safe "Daddy" thing was, IMHO, a metaphor to show that River (and Simon) can now think of Serenity as their home. The whole episode is about them - and Simon in particular - becoming crew.
In fact, I think River had been sensing Simon's memories of how he was abandoned by their father, and she's telling him that that won't happen on Serenity. I totally don't take it as her expressly calling Mal daddy. She may have father like feelings for Mal, but she wouldn't call him daddy.
Can you imagine her, in the final scene of the movie, saying "I can fly it captain-daddy"? *shudder*
It makes her sound like a 5 year old! I can be reading a fic where River is decently written, but as soon as "captain-daddy" comes out of her mouth, I totally lose it. It no longer seems like River to me, but some other character.
mal4prez, is it bad that what you say makes perfect sense to me? :) You write good posts!
Also, the whole "Daddy" thing, though it was fine in "Safe," in the hands of fanfic writers is often just a mite too pervy for me.
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Originally posted by MRSU:
(...) In fact, the moment when she calls him a "boob" is the only one when she's really, deliberately mean and bratty to him.
...HUH... I didn't get that from the scene at all. To me, it just shows the incredible bond they have. Let's face it, she's really the only one in a position to call him on his jerky behavior there. Like only a sister/brother can. She's isn't being a meanie, is what. In fact, I believe very little judgement is levied Simon's way. She just tells him like it is, knowing full well her brother knows full well she knows him full well. Hence, there's no talking back, either: Simon simply knows she's absolutely right -- and is not in the slightest bit surprised even that she says it. It's more like a stern, but not overly judgemental, "Hey bro, you really messed up there!"
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I'm viewing "He takes so much looking after" more like a lighter version of "My turn": she's proud that after all looking after he's done for her she can finally return the favour.
Yes. I take the "He takes so much looking after" as River realizing -- even though she her own self funtions like a girl only part of the time -- that, when it comes to women, Simon can learn a lot from her, too. Which fits in with the "boob" remark: River knows he's actually not very good at talking to girls. And Simon knows River knows. No biggie, for the both of them.
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