Subtle yet interesting show observations -- post yours
POSTED BY: AnimalM0ther
UPDATED: Friday, December 7, 2007 19:19
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not sure if this was mentioned yet...but a few of my favorite subtleties are:
Objects - River pauses to watch Simon with Kaylee and she hears/sees his subconscious say - "i'd be there right now" and later on after the dining room scene he says those words to Kaylee when talking about home (or what he used to consider his home), but he catches himself and feels guitly for saying them. it's rather sweet, and painful.
Message - i like that Jayne takes his hat off, first when hearing the message on the ship and then again at the funeral. at first it seems like it's out of respect (strange for Jayne) but it maybe because he close to him mom - and Tracy is speakin about his parents. the second time is interesting because he appears to have changed a little since talking to Book about how he reacts to death. it seems much closer to home than it was not too long ago...
Objects - someone mentioned the open locker when Jubal and Simon walk into the cargo bay...and that River probably already opened it. you actually see them enter in the reflection of helmet that is sitting on a box. perhaps she set it down and had to hide while they passed through, she may have even listened to that whole exchange on the walkway and was able to get "very close" to Jubal by watching him. just a thought...
cool thread
dukusukker
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"noah's ark is a problem..."
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Originally posted by Romanceguru:
I don’t know why I never noticed this before but in “Trash” when Kaylee is explaining their plan on how to sneak out the lassiter (sp?) and Saffron say’s to Kalyee “Oh, except it's idiotic.” it immediately cuts to Jayne mug and his expression that shouts how dare you say that to little Kaylee. I love it because it shows how much Jayne is in solidarity with his peeps.]
Oh wow! I originally didnt see it that way. Because Jayne always is so literal and not necessarily loyal...and he always seems to miss the point of everything...i took his look (reacting to the enire line as Saffron describes why the plan is idiotic) to mean:
"aw, gorram it! now what are we gonna do? how'd did you miss that? this plan sucks..."
almost like he's watching tennis match. on board one second, off board the next, then on board again. he slays me.
i need to watch it again with the "loyalty" twist. i love it!
dukusukker
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"noah's ark is a problem..."
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My cartridge fell out of my gun...
Ok check this one out. Don't know if this has been mentionned yet but...
Tam is the nickname for the Scottish/Gaelic name Tomas, which means... twin 
Oh this one goes to my signature 
TAM: Nickname for Scottish/Gaelic Tomas, meaning, "twin"
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Originally posted by Shewchuk:
In Serenity when Simon is cleaning River's wounds when she is handcuffed in the pantry river says something to the effect of "old men with no blood on their hands, yet they're in an ocean of it." I think shes refering to the parliament and their decision that led to the graveyard of Miranda.
Though and Action when harmonized free each from the other
I think you're right. I think the exact quote is "It never touched them but they're drowning in it."
"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems." -River
"It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think -River
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Something that's not my observation but that comes from the Shindig commentary. The costume designer mentioned that the leather string Zoe always wears around her neck is a symbol of her marraige bond to Wash. Such a subtle touch, and somehow much deeper than if she'd worn a ring - which in the rougher places she always ends up would be a target for thieves.
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See, the problem with that statement is that Zoe is wearing that leather necklace in the flashback scene in Out of Gas where she meets Wash. Maybe it was designed by said costume designer to symbolize her bond to Wash, but the fact that she's wearing it when she meets him ruins that a little bit.
That's all I can remember right now. I know there are other little things, though. Guess I'll have to watch it all again and come back
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Bible's broken. Doesn't make sense.
Zhu fu ni, mei-mei
I hear people talking about that a lot. My take on that is that it isn't really a blooper. Maybe it was just a piece of jewelry, but she adopted it to be symbolic of her marrage to Wash. See, they don't have a lot of money, so it makes sense that she wouldn't buy something new for that reason. Besides, I don't think people make a lot of those type of necklaces cause people like new, shiny stuff, while Zoe doesn't like new, shiny stuff.
Oh, and to contribute to the tread:
During the 5th time or so I was watching the movie, I realized that Book dies with his eyes open, but when Mal is laying his head down on that rock Book's eyes are closed, and Mal doesn't close them. I think thats more of blooper than a subtley ting, but I though I'd mention that.
"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems." -River
"It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think -River
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In Out of Gas, aka the flashback episode, there is one flashback that involves when Mal first bought Serenity. At first all you hear is the background voice of the dealer telling Mal, "You treat her proper, she'll be with you for the rest of your life." but you don't see the actual deal. Not until the last scene do you actually see the transaction between the dealer and Mal, and as he is saying these words he is pointing to one ship, but Mal is turned the opposite way toward Serentiy.......just a classic scene in my humble estimation
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MostlyHarmless: love Mal's little smile in the last moments of that ep. It's such a subtle little "There you are," kinda smile. love it.
ShewChuk: the exact quote is "old men covered in blood, never touched them yet they're drowning in it" i believe, and u know I never thought of it that way before? Cool observation. what do you make of the first part of that quote: "show me off like a dog..." it sounds like she's referring to herself and the way the Alliance treated her (or to her resulting episode in the Maidenhead). but then what does that have to do with her immediately subsequent comment?
schooner: bout your comment on river's dancing in 'Safe.' I totally did not realize that until you mentioned it and I replayed the scene in my head. Guess I was always kind of caught up in the dance-firefight-dance-firefight confusion. Shiny. that's some cool filming right there.
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You can't take the sky from me...
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Although I noticed Mal kiss the Crucifix in the pilot, I thought it more interesting that he turned away from everybody to bodyshield his kissing of the Cross and tucking it back in before anybody could see.
In BDM, I still haven't thought out the Scene where Mal and River are in standoff, before Simon puts her to sleep. With Jayne, she doesn't kill because she knows he won't kill her, and she had plenty of time to shoot Mal, but read his mind and obviously he hadn't made up his mind to shoot (or would have pulled the trigger before her shot killed him), so she wasn't pulling the trigger, but was still waiting to find out what he was going to decide. So this seems more of a psychic standoff than a physical standoff. And I haven't factored in any "crush" dynamics, either.
I also haven't figured out how Mal changes so quickly after fighting Jubal and then appearing behind him on hull in OIS - anybody figure that out?
Also, in the Wave scene that was shot in BDM, Mal tells Inara he's nude, and then she keeps trying to look down on the Wave screen, apparently trying to peek. However, in Trash, she already took in his full measure - even outside the blooper reel. So if her knowledge base is already filled, is she just curious if he has wood for her to peek at?
"My turn"
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Originally posted by asarian:
Shindig.
I've always wondered how long River's been listening in on Badger and henchmen before she wandered in, allegedly all confused. And this because River says: "Now you're what, petty thief with delusions of standing?"
What standing? Or rather, what standing that River knows of? It can really only refer to her having overheard Badger say: "Persephone's my home. I gotta do business with the people here. I don't want it known I brought someone in caused this kinda ruckus." But that convo took place several minutes ago. Which means River has been eavesdropping for quite a bit, all the way through the crew discussing strategy, and up and until Jayne's "We need a diversion." Then River happens to wander in, and provides one (the idea of the possibility of Jayne getting nekkid was probably too much for her to stomach, lol).
Seems River played Badger. From minute one.
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam
I don't think this was eavesdropping. She was reading his mind, getting perfect a dialect she'd never heard before except in his mind, knowing his mum and childhood and how he rose up in the biz and his current insecurities and delusions.
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oh, and if you notice as well: in "Shindig", Kaylee's still wearing her "party" make-up while Badger keeps watch over the crew. Her and Inara's eyes had some Cleopatra-like eyeliner. Pretty shiny, it was.^^
Ain't we just.
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