Subtle yet interesting show observations -- post yours
POSTED BY: AnimalM0ther
UPDATED: Friday, December 7, 2007 19:19
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By the way, has anyone else noticed that Mal, Zoe, Jayne and Kaylee all talk with the Western slang, while those from the Central planets talk more articulately? Hehe. I guess that's because they had more schoolin' than ol' Jayne.^^ It's not really subtle but it's a shiny evedence of their respective characters.
Never mind me. I don't know what I'm saying. I never know what I'm saying...
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Ain't we just.
CRY, BABY, CRY.
MAKE YOUR MOTHER SIGH.
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One thing I always notice is. . . at the end of "Jaynestown" when Jayne is reflecting on the events, "The Hero of Canton" is in the background, only it's a very soft version in the soundtrack. Thought that was especially shiny.
Also, I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation, but I keep wondering about the episode "Bushwhacked." When the Alliace station is pulling Serenity in, Serenity is upside-down and is attached upside-down; when the officers come onto Serenity, Mal and co. are right-side up and there's no evidence of the gravity field changing as the Reaver-scarred man is taken to the infirmary on the Alliance ship. It never fails to leave me wondering. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
K
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were there monkeys? some terrifying space monkeys??
no seriously, i think they just goofed that one - put it down with wash's invisible steering... LOL!
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Originally posted by sorcha425:
Also, I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation, but I keep wondering about the episode "Bushwhacked." When the Alliace station is pulling Serenity in, Serenity is upside-down and is attached upside-down; when the officers come onto Serenity, Mal and co. are right-side up and there's no evidence of the gravity field changing as the Reaver-scarred man is taken to the infirmary on the Alliance ship. It never fails to leave me wondering. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
K
Yeah, I've always wondered about that... sometimes, I find myself tilting my head to see if I'm seeing it right...
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I don't know what I'm saying. I never know what I'm saying.... -River Tam, Serenity (2005)
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On the blooper side,
In BDM, after the EMP and ship is in freefall, we see Wash's left hand go for a switchbank, which wiggles around on the console, swaying like it's hanging on a peg.
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That never fails to annoy me, that shot. It's so obvious every time! In fact it is so obvious that I thought it must be an optical illusion maybe because of the movement of Wash's thumb. Trouble is, I really don't believe that. More likely I'm trying to make excuses because it seems so lazy for anyone to have missed that and left it in the film. Maybe they just had no other shots they could fit in its place so Joss wincingly left it in.
Anyway, my observation for this thread, if it hasn't already been catalogued, comes from Safe. It's another one of those instances where 'Joss takes a jab at religeon.'
When Simon and River wind up in the hill-folk's makeshift hospital they meet Darlene (I think is her name), who has been looking after the sick. She's a sweet mannered, scripture quoting type who, when Simon quips "...nice little community of kidnappers," tells him to "Judge not..." ('lest ye be judged' I believe is the full expression). Later, she contradicts herself completely when she judges River: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live!"
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And I just noticed (after watching War Stories for the nth time):
When Zoe and Wash are preparing to get Mal back from Niska, Wash said the line "Leave no man behind." It sounded so heroic and his stance was so manly and all, and then you realize he's holding a girl-gun.
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I don't know what I'm saying. I never know what I'm saying.... -River Tam, Serenity (2005)
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Not tremendoudly subtle, but I've often admired the methods Star Trek managed production costs to keep the network and producers happy and still keep fresh scripts. Their general rule was to alternate episodes from all on-ship, with limited extra cast, and maybe some special effects, and then other episodes are on a planet or other major set, with gobs of extras casting. Small, contained sets would lean towards less expensive.
Some scifi series stay the whole time on ship or station - I'm thinking BSG or DS9.
Anyhow, Firefly had 5 episodes on ship (mostly) and normally with limited extra cast.
1. Bushwhacked.
2. Our Mrs. Reynolds.
3. Out of Gas.
4. Message.
5. Objects in Space.
These 5 make up about 1/3 of the episodes (13 plus 2 hr pilot).
But also including War Stories (largely on Nisko's station, very contained set), and Ariel (largely in hospital, but a bit more cast), would make it 7 episodes, almost half of the shows.
The rest either had large soundstage scenes or gobs of cast, I figure.
Special effects seemed blended well throughout.
I just thought it all interesting.
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I just noticed watching "Our Mrs. Reynolds" last night that when Jayne walks up with Vera, Mal holds his hand right over his gun the whole time. Like he's ready to draw, which he subsequently did in the movie. Also, same ep, after YoSaffBridge asks if the captain wants her to wash his feet, he looks first at her, then at his the Washburns, like he's daring them to say something about him being a lecherous old hump. And immediately after he walks out Wash tears into the fresh bao. Hilarious.
"I'm not going to say Serenity is the greatest SciFi movie ever; oh wait yes I am." - Orson Scott Card
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Quote:
Originally posted by sorcha425:
Also, I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation, but I keep wondering about the episode "Bushwhacked." When the Alliace station is pulling Serenity in, Serenity is upside-down and is attached upside-down; when the officers come onto Serenity, Mal and co. are right-side up and there's no evidence of the gravity field changing as the Reaver-scarred man is taken to the infirmary on the Alliance ship. It never fails to leave me wondering. Any thoughts?
Well, there's no 'right side up' in space, of course. Serenity is definitely docking upside down, relative to the Alliance Cruiser; but that don't change the gravity orientation within Serenity itself one bit, of course. It just like it were 'upside down' in space: out there in the back, it don't mean a thing.
So, how's the gravity field organized on the Cruiser? At least we know that gravity, in their cockpit, seems aligned with Serenity 'right side up' (as we watch Serenity turn upside down from their view screen). But it's entirely plausible that, ship this size, the outer hull gravity works the way gravity works on any planet/moon: drawing inward from all sides. Seems like a very natural way to organize gravity, if you ask me. So, Serenity, when it's docking, IS aligned with the Cruiser's gravity!
Now, we don't get to see precisely HOW Serenity docks. I reckon there's a type of docking ring (or they fly into a hangar of sorts; there's no footage showing the exact moment). So, their mutual gravity, at that point, would be perfectly aligned. And that idea is strengthened exactly because we DO, explicitely, get to watch Serenity turn over. First we wee both vessels right side up; but then, when Serenity is docking, it needs to obey the Alliance 'planetary' style gravity and turn upside down to land properly.
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