Let's talk about Vera
POSTED BY: Zicsoft
UPDATED: Thursday, October 10, 2002 22:15
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Interesting that Vera makes such small holes when she obviously packs such a punch. But perhaps the visor material is stronger than anything we have access to.
From "Bushwhacked"
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Simon: I suppose it's just the though of a little mylar and glass being the only thing that separates a person from nothing
Shug
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I just re-watched the ep and have two thoughts.
If you look carefully, It shows where the cartridges are stored on the rifle, pointing up, so you have to use the cartridges as a cheek rest. They appear to be approx. .50 caliber straight wall brass cased. They might have used straightwall sharps rounds as props(.50-90 perhaps?). If those rounds were modernized with smokeless powder and exotic bullets(depleted uranium would be fun) with a rimless design, they could be devastating within 200 yards. Judging from the reflex sights, it is not a long range weapon, and the huge muzzle brake would tell us it is an extremely powerful round.Possibly on the scale of a .50bmg, but probably not seeing how little recoil it appeared to have. Anywho, I want one!
an armed society is a polite society
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Quote:Or in an airless, gravityless environment, at any distance at all.
they could be devastating within 200 yards
JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!
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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Let's face facts folks. If Jayne can shoot like that under the worst of circumstances, I'm on HIS side, whichever or whatever it is!
Agreed! And the guy never even looked down the sights, managed to take out the array and put five rounds through the window, even though Mal told him it wasn't a priority. I guess Jayne felt it was.
Rex!
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Originally posted by loonytoon:
I just re-watched the ep and have two thoughts.
If you look carefully, It shows where the cartridges are stored on the rifle, pointing up, so you have to use the cartridges as a cheek rest. They appear to be approx. .50 caliber straight wall brass cased. They might have used straightwall sharps rounds as props(.50-90 perhaps?). If those rounds were modernized with smokeless powder and exotic bullets(depleted uranium would be fun) with a rimless design, they could be devastating within 200 yards. Judging from the reflex sights, it is not a long range weapon, and the huge muzzle brake would tell us it is an extremely powerful round.Possibly on the scale of a .50bmg, but probably not seeing how little recoil it appeared to have. Anywho, I want one!
Well, We couldn't clearly see if Jayne was braced, since they never showed his back, but recoil in a vacuumwould be equal in the opposite direct, wouldn't it? SO, if he was braced, I'd think he could take much more recoil in a vacuum than planetside, maybe even increasing the effective distance of the round.
Just my dos pesos,
Rex!
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TinyTimm,
I read your article on the weapons of FF, and really liked it. You may want to add, a la "Vera," that the big pistol and knife have names too.
This is from the cast interview available athttp:// www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=27
"AB: Oh, yeah. [Reaching into the case] That's my prop guy, Rick. [Pulls a big pistol out of the case.] This is Boomer. [Opens a compartment on the gun.] This is Boomer. [Pulls out a knife and holds it next to Boomer.] This is Binky. Binky and Boomer. [Shoots at the camera] Boom."
Thanks for the hard work.
Rex!
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Bugdog:
According to the crowd on The Straight Dope Message Board:
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Beautiful detail, but wrong. Guns don't need air to fire. The oxidizer is in the powder. It has to be - there's no way that just ambient air could sustain a fast enough explosion. Without an oxidizer in gunpowder, you'd just get a flammable powder, not an explosive.
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This is true, come to think of it. There is an oxidizer in gunpowder. It's called saltpeter. There's also an accelerant, sulfur, to help to the combustion along.
There is still a question as to whether a gun designed under atmospheric conditions firing cartridges similiarly designed would operate in a vacuum. One cannot say that just any gun will fire in a vacuum. There are considerable stresses due to the lack of atmospheric pressure which would be enough to prevent the gun from firing. But the lack of oxygen, alone, wouldn't necassarily be a problem.
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Bugdog:
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Beautiful detail, but wrong. Guns don't need air to fire. The oxidizer is in the powder. It has to be - there's no way that just ambient air could sustain a fast enough explosion. Without an oxidizer in gunpowder, you'd just get a flammable powder, not an explosive.
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There's a Straight Dope forum? Where?
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That message shows how much the straight dope people know. Smokeless powder IS merely a flammable powder, it needs a enclosed space to fire. Plus, vera appears to be gas operated, I wonder if it could generate enough pressure to cycle in space. I think recoil would be ammplified in zero-g.
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