To save America, we need another 9/11
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Thursday, May 23, 2024 06:04
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Pirate- check your PMs.
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I think McCain/Fiengold should have been vetoed because it's unconstitutional. Not only does it limit free speech, it limits political free speech, which is the main reason FOR free speech in the first place. W balked at vetoing the M/F bill because he thought the courts would do his dirty work for him and find it illegal. They should have, but because W failed to uphold his duty to defend the constitution, he bears much of the blame.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Auraptor, I make the distinction between free speech and "bought and paid for" speech. In the first case, it should be given every possible consideration. In the second case, IMHO it's nothing more than advertising and should be treated as such. What say you?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Auraptor, I make the distinction between free speech and "bought and paid for" speech. In the first case, it should be given every possible consideration. In the second case, IMHO it's nothing more than advertising and should be treated as such. What say you?
The Gov't has no place in telling us what to say, nor when. Free speech is free speech.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:I have to admit, Sig's comments in mind also, that I have mixed feelings on the matter. Money is not speech, it is money. If I want to write an op ed piece that says "Vote for Joe because he's cool", that is speech. If I can get it on the air, by hook or crook, it is still speech. If the one of the parties gives George Billionare a 'suggestion' for something to publish in a paper, and he chooses to 'say it', blocking -that- would be unconstitutional, and I do believe M/F does block that as well.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I think McCain/Fiengold should have been vetoed because it's unconstitutional. Not only does it limit free speech, it limits political free speech, which is the main reason FOR free speech in the first place. W balked at vetoing the M/F bill because he thought the courts would do his dirty work for him and find it illegal. They should have, but because W failed to uphold his duty to defend the constitution, he bears much of the blame.
We need some way to change our system so elections are not bought and paid for, where those who paid for it are given preferential treatment. I am at a grave loss as to how we get there, respect the ability of folks to voice their views, and respect the constitution.
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Auraptor- the government is NOT telling anyone "what" to say or not say. The CONTENT of their speech is unrestricted. What MF does is affect the distribution of that content.
Sloppy, sloppy thinking!!!! That's always been your problem!
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Auraptor- the government is NOT telling anyone "what" to say or not say. The CONTENT of their speech is unrestricted. What MF does is affect the distribution of that content.
Sloppy, sloppy thinking!!!! That's always been your problem!
You're wrong. It DENIES our right to speak freely.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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How?
BTW- here's a question you never answered: What does Mr Tamm have to do with not getting FISA warrants?
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How about acknowledge that Rap doesn't like M/F and ask if he has a better idea on how to eliminate 'politician bought and paid for', or perhaps he doesn't have a problem with that either?
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