Why did they have to get rid of........
POSTED BY: Jollie36
UPDATED: Friday, September 28, 2007 18:47
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“The border wasn't meant to be crossed. The land beyond is sour.”
We can’t bring Wash back because then he would be evil!
I never really had a problem with Wash’s death. Aside from Alan being the best actor of the bunch, I’m not sure what Wash really provided to the story apart from basically comic relief. And Alan wanted to be killed off.
Now Book on the other hand – he had some stories to tell. I guess I’m in the minority here though.
“It’s that damn road!!”
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Bringitback:
If there ever is a sequel.. The opening scene will be Wash waking up in an Alliance hospital.
Count on it.
Ive noticed that after he was speared, they had to leave him behind... but reavers don't like 'dead' bodies so they would leave him too.
Now that leaves the alliance crew that came and I'm thinking they're guna pick up someone from the crew of the ship they have been chasing for the better part of a year.
Obviously.. through 'advanced medical blah blah' they keep him alive and once the 'blueies' get a hold of him he is interrogated.
Somehow the crew finds out (be it River or wash getting a message out) and they go into rescue mode.. upon the rescue attempt we find out how evil blue sun really is and we have a sequel and then possibly a third...
A guy can dream...
Well, I as I'm sure others have, noticed a way for your idea to be ver plausible.
First, Niska's machine in War Stories, if it could've brought Mal back, why not Wash. And for the matter of crushed organs, that's exactly what Tracey in The Message was smuggling.
I'm just saying its possible.
More possibility if everyone buys the SERENITY COLLECTORS EDITION!!! Need some advertisement somewhere. :p
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Yeah, I almost started crying right there in the theater when that happened to Wash. My mouth just kinda dropped open and my brain didn't unlock until that operative shot Mal in the back.
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Ok everybody CRAZY4MAL is close to the "Bullseye" on this one. As you all know Joss W. and I are pretty good buddies so here's the unknown truth of the matter ( I shouldn't be telling you guys this but we're browncoats and I like you) Peter Seller was substituted for Wash while the crew were back on Miranda. Remember all thoes faces Wash was making while flying Serenity back to Mr. Universes planet? Well that was actually Peter flying. It was an Alliance plot back on Miranda to infiltrate Mal's crew of lawless pirates even further. The proof's below:
So there you have it. Wash is safe and hiding out on Miranda. I'll be posting this in the BSR and maybe on other FF sites as well.
Excuse my french, but what the piss are you talking about? Who is Peter Seller and what does he have to do with any of this? Why would Wash stay on Miranda? O_o
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Originally posted by freelancertex:
Yeah, I almost started crying right there in the theater when that happened to Wash. My mouth just kinda dropped open and my brain didn't unlock until that operative shot Mal in the back.Quote:
Ok everybody CRAZY4MAL is close to the "Bullseye" on this one. As you all know Joss W. and I are pretty good buddies so here's the unknown truth of the matter ( I shouldn't be telling you guys this but we're browncoats and I like you) Peter Seller was substituted for Wash while the crew were back on Miranda. Remember all thoes faces Wash was making while flying Serenity back to Mr. Universes planet? Well that was actually Peter flying. It was an Alliance plot back on Miranda to infiltrate Mal's crew of lawless pirates even further. The proof's below:
So there you have it. Wash is safe and hiding out on Miranda. I'll be posting this in the BSR and maybe on other FF sites as well.
Excuse my french, but what the piss are you talking about? Who is Peter Seller and what does he have to do with any of this? Why would Wash stay on Miranda? O_o
I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure he is pulling your leg. :P
Peter Seller's an actor, I think. From our times. ;)
Anyway, about what you said about your brain not "unlocking" for a while when poor Wash got offed- it was the same for me when I saw the movie for the first time (completely unspoiled) during the original theatrical run. I was like "wait, wait waiaiaiaatsadhasfjdhfy7e WHAT!?!"
And the little itty bitty part of my frontal lobe that normally is so good and so very clever at looking ahead and seeing that yeah, Mal and River won't die because of their character arcs, and probably no one else from the crew 'sides Book who's already dead anyway, will either because hey, they're the BDHs, right? That part of my brain?
Completely thrown for a loop and put completely helter-skelter by the fact that Wash - Wash, for God's sake, Mr. Lighthearted Funny Comic Relief Guy - got killed. And not JUST killed - killed quick, and brutal, and in his supposed moment of triumph, right when you think it's a nice little comedown moment from the gut-wrenching crash scene and you think it's going to be all right and a beat, for that beautiful poignant final words which you don't even realize are final words yet but then WHAMBOOMDEADWASHNOOOOOZOE LOOKOUT! AAAAAHH WTF*#$*#&$$# WHAT JUST HAPPENED NOOOOOOOWAAAAAASH!!!?
In short, yes, scrambled my brains too. :P Which after the showing was over, made me sort of in awe of Joss. I mean, I was an adult when I watched it, and cynical at that. Yet the whole climax of the film after that point's a bloody nailbiter, because you have this sickening, horrible feeling anyone could die, even if logic and conventions of storytelling tell you otherwise. It absorbs you, rips you out of your skull and plunks you down in the middle of it and you are there, right next to them, watching them about to die, one by one thinking you're losing them, and your brain just can't think straight, because everybody's dying around you and you don't have time to react because it's happening so gorram fast... and then, the tables turn for our heroes one by one too, though - and suddenly, we see our little ninja ballerina and she is in her element, and she kicks psychotic space cannibal posterior and she does it with such efficiency and yet beauty, such grace, and your heart just swells with elation as her body arcs backwards gracefully, taking three out at once almost effortlessly and then the rest of the... and... then glorious backlight... and... yeah.
I remember coming out of seeing it for the first time, after having watched all or most of Firefly, and I remember being just completely, utterly blown away by it. Just the sheer, raw, emotional momentum and the brutal, gut-wrenching twists and the beauty and (appropriately enough) serenity of the finale and just...
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pulling my leg? that's not very nice -_-
peter sellers is an actor (pink panther) but theres no one named peter seller :-P 'least not that i know of.
Totally agree with the rest of what you said. What continues to blow my mind about the series is the fact that it was so unconventional and so new, unlike anything seen before on tv...and they cancelled it. As you said, cowboys in space, sorta, and they speak Chinese. Who in their mother would have thought of that? Ever? Even I've never thought of anything like that and I'm a writer!! The whole style, the fact that it's futuristic but it's rugged, not necessarily high tech or sleek or sophisticated as everyone depicts the future of mankind being. I LOVE that about Firefly.
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Have you ever wondered why in a dream you can touch a falling sky?
Or fly to the heavens that watch over you?
"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar."
A man is least himself when he speaks in his own person. Give him a mask and he will show you his true self.
You can't take the sky from me...
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I understood that the choicve of Wash to off was because he is just toooo busy in other movies and broadway and such - they were apparently just barely able to fit in his work on BDM between his other engagements.
On the other hand, if he became a reaver, didn't they find an antidote for the reavers - like on Miranda? Or am I recalling another story?
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