Why did they have to get rid of........
POSTED BY: Jollie36
UPDATED: Friday, September 28, 2007 18:47
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There are a few of us antipodeans about, even some from Melbourne (Magdalena??). I hail from the NSW south coast - about 3 hours drive south of Sydney.
We're the Eagles, West Coast Eagles....
You'd be tired of hearing that I reckon 
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Browncoats, are you content to see Firefly in 2nd place or would you rather see it at #1. It won't happen unless you vote.
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Getting back to your original question: Joss Whedon is known for killing off fan favorite characters. It's a way to increase the emotional impact of the story he's telling. (It seems to have worked for you!)
In the case of Wash and the BDM, his sudden and inevitable loss let the audience know that the situation was ultra-dangerous for all our Big Damn Heroes. It racheted up the risk factor and suspense level. After that, anyone or everyone might have died -- and most of them nearly did.
It doesn't make it any less painful, but it gives Wash's death meaning on a certain level. On a different level, it ensured that all the rest of the characters were solid in their resolve to carry out the plan.
If it makes you feel any better, Joss has said that he will find a way to bring Book and Wash back, if there is a sequel. My opinion is that he means via flashbacks, since I doubt he will "resurrect" either character.
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I'm pointin' right at it!
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If there ever is a sequel.. The opening scene will be Wash waking up in an Alliance hospital.
Count on it.
Ive noticed that after he was speared, they had to leave him behind... but reavers don't like 'dead' bodies so they would leave him too.
Now that leaves the alliance crew that came and I'm thinking they're guna pick up someone from the crew of the ship they have been chasing for the better part of a year.
Obviously.. through 'advanced medical blah blah' they keep him alive and once the 'blueies' get a hold of him he is interrogated.
Somehow the crew finds out (be it River or wash getting a message out) and they go into rescue mode.. upon the rescue attempt we find out how evil blue sun really is and we have a sequel and then possibly a third...
A guy can dream...
oh and while we are singing AFL songs...
'Good Old Collingwood Forever!!' :) Go pies!
"Who's flying this thing!?...oh wait, me"
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Oh No!!!!!! Not Collingwood!!!!
Now Essendon!!!!!
But seriously...... I like that scenario about Wash being rescued by the Alliance and the crew of Serenity having to rescue them after River telepathically gets a message from him.
Yes we can also get some more insight about the evil Blue Sun Corporation and then we will have a sequil that should be quite interesting....
......but most importantly Wash would be back!!!!! Yay!
Take care all
Jollie36
Take me out to the black.... Tell them I ain't commin back! You can't take the sky from ME!!!
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Originally posted by Jollie36:
Oh no...... I'm watching Serenity the movie again.... and they are up to the bit where Wash is about to die!!!
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Not again!!!!!
Booohooo....
Nooo!!!
Meant to post about this the other day, and I forgot.
A while back there was a thread here about small changes that would have had a big effect on the 'Verse.
One of my favorites--
Wash: " I am a leaf on the wind, watch how--"
Mal: "Wash, duck."
Wash: " OK, I am a duck on the wind. Watch-"
Squish!
Made me laugh and cry at the same time...
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Originally posted by Bringitback:
If there ever is a sequel.. The opening scene will be Wash waking up in an Alliance hospital.
Count on it.
Ive noticed that after he was speared, they had to leave him behind... but reavers don't like 'dead' bodies so they would leave him too.
Now that leaves the alliance crew that came and I'm thinking they're guna pick up someone from the crew of the ship they have been chasing for the better part of a year.
Obviously.. through 'advanced medical blah blah' they keep him alive and once the 'blueies' get a hold of him he is interrogated.
Somehow the crew finds out (be it River or wash getting a message out) and they go into rescue mode.. upon the rescue attempt we find out how evil blue sun really is and we have a sequel and then possibly a third...
A guy can dream...
oh and while we are singing AFL songs...
'Good Old Collingwood Forever!!' :) Go pies!
"Who's flying this thing!?...oh wait, me"
Sorry, but I can't see Alliance soldiers, those who have just barely survived the harrowing battle in space with the Reavers and having a mind set on capturing/killing the crew of the ship that has caused them so much trouble, stopping to recover Wash's impaled dead body and then resuscitating him to get 'information'. 'Information' on what?
They are after River Tam and they know where she is. They want her alive if possible but could care less about the dead pilot. They have no need for any of Serenity's crew alive any longer at this point. Remember, these soldiers were about to open fire on the crew and would have if the Operative had not ordered them to "stand down". Their fingers squeezing the triggers is all I need to know that they would have no need for any of the crew alive for 'information'.
Plus, don't you think our BDM's would have noticed Wash's body was missing when they all returned to Serenity? That would be a bit too much for Joss to have 'just left out' of the movie. Why would they hold a memorial service if they did not have a body to bury or cremate?
The 'only' way to set up the stage to bring Wash back in a movie sequel/future TV series via Alliance resuscitation/new organs theory, was to have the crew return to the ship and find his body missing and delete the memorial service scene at the end. Seeing the empty bloody chair 'could' set up the assumption that his body was taken by the Reavers or possibly the Alliance. But, we'd need to see the empty chair in the BDM to make any Wash come back plausible, even by Sci Fi standards.
BUT, I still see no reason for the Alliance to take Wash's dead body, so the whole 'Wash' comeback story line is silly.
Like you, I loved Wash and hated to see him die in the film. But he is gone, will be sorely missed, but Serenity will go on without him.
Now, I would love to see Joss go back to TV with Firefly and take off where the series itself ended, with the full crew back on board and tie up all those loose ends/adventures dealing with Book and Blue Sun. This could be done very easily.
"You wanna run this ship?"
"Yes"
"Well,...you can't"
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oouch...
obviously I was pulling at straws and damned if you havent put me back in my corner.
I will say this.. doesnt have to be a body to have a funeral.
Crew comes back, sees Wash is gone and is right to assume the Reavers picked him up. and what about Book? Don't think they went back for his body.
As far as the soldiers about to pull the trigger, that is River Tam we are talking about, they know what she can do, they know what she knows, that is just panic stations for that garrison. They could have easily picked up Wash before hand (prior to them knowing that they would run into the crew) because that is what they were ordered to do before hand.
It makes sense (in my head anyway) to pick up and secure anyone off a ship that the whole alliance has been chasing for the better part of a year.
This can all be cleared up with a quick flash back moment :)
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see below
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sydney has a myspace www.myspace.com/serenitysydney which should provide answer for sydney people who are trying to find info
adelaide also has one if there are any adelaide BCs people i havent already friended. myspace.com/csts_adelaide
all 3 aussie cities currently have limited stock of csts tshirts and posters for pre order (pick up at event)
and any perthies! watch out for a csts screening for next year i reckon, ive seen some interest in people wanting to organise one
http://community.livejournal.com/csts_adelaide
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