Spike at the end of Season 6
POSTED BY: Zeek
UPDATED: Thursday, August 9, 2007 15:52
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Truth is, without season 7, Spike would not be as liked as he is by me; the whole sacrifice thing was what made me truly care. And the sleeping (JUST sleeping) with Buffy thing...*snif*
Soppy Chrisisall
Yes I started to like Spike more in season seven, that holding Buffy was crucial to that, but also the wonderful tie in with Principal wood and the killing of his mother....
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Originally posted by wytchcroft:
i think the writers kinda miscommunicated with one another here as Spike's vocal tone is uneven 'Bitch' is meant to (and does) alienate the viewer yet the narrative and arc call for sympathy - i love and hate the whole 'rape' issue thing with equal and ambivalent measure and my views change everytime i watch. mayve that was good writing after all.
This is exactly it. That dialog doesn't fit. I understand that they want to trick the viewer, but even when I know what's going on it doesn't make sense. Basically they lied to the viewer and called it a plot twist. More like rewrite. I really wish they had gone with continuity over one moment of shocking the viewer.
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i'm with you on this one - and i remember reading a James Masters interview once where he said how upset he was by the whole rape thing - and how it was put together more in the editing suite than between the actors and writers.
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He retained a nebulous, imperfect connection to his soul after all, the forces of Darkness could not sever it completely. Like a smell that can't quite be distinguished, or a distant memory that can't quite be grasped...
Deep Chrisisall
I'll have what he's smoking
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Quote:GRRR, now you make me HAVE to watch it again starting tonight!!!!
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Yes I started to like Spike more in season seven, that holding Buffy was crucial to that, but also the wonderful tie in with Principal wood and the killing of his mother....
SevennutChrisisall
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Quote:I take it you agree w/me?
Originally posted by charliethebloody:
I'll have what he's smoking
Can't quite grasp Chrisisall
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few more tokes and I'm sure I would...
but I don't believe he was completely unique, he was probably the most pronounced example, but drusilla had it too, her human self was driven mad but that continued when the demon took over, the judge said of both of them "you stink of humanity, you share affection and jealousy." and the way she said "we can love quite well, if not wisely" in crush was soo full of emotion that there must be something resembling a soul there.
and angel's offspring in general were quite connected to their human lives, penn spent a hundred years working through issues to do with his religion and his family. the guy on the submarine, I can't remember his name, was different because angel had a soul when he did it, but he was caught somewhere between being human and demon the same way spike was I reckon...
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interesting....
Chrisisall
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