Buffy: the events that stay powerful, and the ones who's impact has faded...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, August 11, 2007 02:12
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Quote:You're so sweet, Charlie
Originally posted by charliethebloody:
so "mentality of spike" would actually be closer to chris's chickifiedness, wouldn't it?
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re: bangel angst, I totally agree, there are few bits I still find affecting, but whereas her killing him seemed like the most heart-rending thing ever at the time now it doesn't have the impact at all...
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:You're so sweet, Charlie
Originally posted by charliethebloody:
so "mentality of spike" would actually be closer to chris's chickifiedness, wouldn't it?
nah, you're sweet
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Hear Hear
Everyone talks about how in season 2 when Buffy and Angel have sex which turns Angel into Angelus, that that moment is when the show became THE SHOW. And that and her running a sword through him to keep Hell on Earth from opening up at the end of the season were the most powerful moments of the series and that an entire generation cried and all that and said Shakespeare ripped off Whedon or some crap like that.
Personally, that was one moment that didn't do a damn thing for me. Maybe it's because I never really bought the Buffy/Angel relationship. It seemed more of a plot contrivance than a genuine attraction, which never really had much chemistry, I found. Plus, when she saw Angel acting the complete opposite of his regular self, a huge red flag should have gone up in her head instead of just crying about it. Maybe I'm saying this because I'm not a teenage girl, but from a storyteller's POV, this just seems lazy and cheap.
Also, I found Angel in the first three seasons of Buffy to be a pretty bland character with not much of a personality. It was when he left and got his own show that Angel, to me anyways, actually became interesting. So him turning into Angelus in season 2 didn't have that much power to me because I didn't care about him to begin with. When Angelus returned in season 4 of ANGEL, THEN I actually sat up and considered him a true threat.
So I second you Clementine. With the exception of "I Will Remember You" in ANGEL, Buffy/Angel means absolutely nothing.
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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
re: bangel angst, I totally agree, there are few bits I still find affecting, but whereas her killing him seemed like the most heart-rending thing ever at the time now it doesn't have the impact at all...
In that scene as Angelus beats Buffy down, he gives the whole, "You've lost everything" speech. What I still find moving is the
A: "What have you got left?"
Buffy catches the sword blade in her bare hands.
B: "Me."
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Why does he make such strong female characters?
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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
So I second you Clementine. With the exception of "I Will Remember You" in ANGEL, Buffy/Angel means absolutely nothing.
Wow, if I'd said anything close to this on Whedonesque, I'd be a charred cinder by now. And sternly warned by the moderator about 'shipping issues.
Are Firefly fans only Spuffies or are the Bangels just ignoring us?
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Quote:I love that in the end, Buffy truly loves both Spike and Angel, and that it goes beyond the simplistic 'boyfriend' thing.
Originally posted by Clementine:
Are Firefly fans only Spuffies or are the Bangels just ignoring us?
Buffinn Chrisisall
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Yeah, there wasn't any Captain Cardboard chained up on that page in Season #8.
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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Hear Hear
Everyone talks about how in season 2 when Buffy and Angel have sex which turns Angel into Angelus, that that moment is when the show became THE SHOW.
but it is...
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And that and her running a sword through him to keep Hell on Earth from opening up at the end of the season were the most powerful moments of the series and that an entire generation cried and all that and said Shakespeare ripped off Whedon or some crap like that.
but that was true at the time, it was the most powerful up to that point, it just pales next to what came after...
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Plus, when she saw Angel acting the complete opposite of his regular self, a huge red flag should have gone up in her head instead of just crying about it. Maybe I'm saying this because I'm not a teenage girl, but from a storyteller's POV, this just seems lazy and cheap.
hmm, maybe, but I actually was a teenage girl at the time and I can see why she'd just be confused and a bit slow to catch on... I don't think it was lazy...
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Also, I found Angel in the first three seasons of Buffy to be a pretty bland character with not much of a personality. It was when he left and got his own show that Angel, to me anyways, actually became interesting.
I agree with this though
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