So!! Who's finished Deathly Hallows??
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I'd really like to see a fanfic set right after the ending of the main part of the book, in which Ginny gives Harry hell for abandoning her in a school under the control of Death Eaters for a year.
Didn't he realize that as a known love interest of his, she was in so much MORE danger there than she would have been if she'd been on the run with him, out of the reach of the Death Eaters?
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Quote:Absolutely! But the way she wants to help her son is by getting on the winning side (I think I recall that being said pretty explicitely... I could be wrong.) Which is fine - but lying about Harry didn't seem the obvious choice to me. Not from her point of view. How could she be sure one small lie would lead to Voldemort's defeat? How did she know the good guys would forgive her and her family for all they'd done?
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
she wanted to be on the winning side
No, she wanted her son. She was a mom; it wasn't about winning or losing.
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Actually, what's said is that she wants to get to the castle as soon as possible, and that's all that matters. Saying that Harry was dead meant marching immediately to the castle. That's what I got, anyway...
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
A troll's hair is still pointy, even when it's wearing a hat.
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Quote:Hmmm... must read again...
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Actually, what's said is that she wants to get to the castle as soon as possible, and that's all that matters. Saying that Harry was dead meant marching immediately to the castle. That's what I got, anyway...
But I still think there were better ways to handle it, better arguments. Seemed contrived, and was too important a moment for that.
Yes, I'm nit-picky.
But like I said, these little things didn't stop me from really enjoying the book. Overall, thumbs up from me. I just pity the folks who are going to try to make a movie out of it. So much was happening, and there's so many characters! It needs to be like 6 hours long LOL!-----------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by mal4prez:Quote:Hmmm... must read again...
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Actually, what's said is that she wants to get to the castle as soon as possible, and that's all that matters. Saying that Harry was dead meant marching immediately to the castle. That's what I got, anyway...
The book said something like the only way she could go to the castle would be marching there victorious with Voldemort. It wasn't about actually being on the winning side, it was about letting Voldemort believe himself to be victorious now so he'd have his triumphal march to the castle. It didn't matter to her that once he got there he was doomed.
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Originally posted by sab39:
The book said something like the only way she could go to the castle would be marching there victorious with Voldemort. It wasn't about actually being on the winning side, it was about letting Voldemort believe himself to be victorious now so he'd have his triumphal march to the castle. It didn't matter to her that once he got there he was doomed.
Which helps her get into the castle... how? Which protects her son... how? Wouldn't taking one more minute to kill Harry - who she hates and sees as The Enemy of herself and her son - be a lot more obvious a path for her to take?
And keep in mind - this isn't her thoughts we're being shown, so the hysterical/illogical protective mother thing doesn't work. This is Harry working out her reasoning, and he doesn't read minds. All he's seen from her is hate hate hate hate Hermione torture and hate.
(Edit: oops, did she torture Hermione, or was that Bellatrix? I'm so confused... but the point being, Harry's seen all bad of Mrs. Malfoy up to then, right?)
I'm just saying - the motivations of the character who backed up his false death should be in character and fit Harry's prior observations. To me, it was neither of those.
Obviously, I'm in the minority LOL! That's cool, I'm used to it.
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It was Bellatrix who tortured Hermione.
I think the Malfoys had a change of heart partway through this book, when they might have realized that being a part of Voldemort's regime wasn't the healthiest life choice (the random killings when Harry et. al. robbed Gringott's). Lucius had already lost favor with the Dark Lord several times, and was wandless, so it might have even been a vengeful type move on her part, for him tossing their loyalty aside so casually in pursuit of nothing but his own goals. *shrug* Just some speculation, though. It seems like Draco had a similar change of heart partway through, when Harry saved his ass twice (of course, the fact that a Death Eater was threatening him leads to the belief that they had already fallen/showed signs of turning).
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Yeah, Bellatrix was the nasty one with the hate, hate, torture, and hate. We don't actually see much of Narcissa, and what we see of her (aside from being a silent snob at the Quiditch cup) is her trying to protect and stay close to her son. She wanted to get in and find him ASAP. Harry had just survived a killing curse; why would she think another would finish him off?
Had it been Bellatrix, I'm sure she would have acted differently.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
A troll's hair is still pointy, even when it's wearing a hat.
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Yeah and when it opens and the deatheaters are at the Malfoys Voldemort says Lucius doesn't want him there...I think they are watching him try to turn their son into a monster and realizing just how awful VOldemort is and that he can and will kill them and their son at any time just to amuse himself...think they started thinking maybe it's not such a good thing to be with Voldemort.
"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
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Don't forget at the start of Half Blood Prince she was already ready to go against Voldemort's direct order to keep a secret, in order to try to get Snape to help protect Draco as he tried to kill Dumbledore.
Admittedly Harry didn't see that, but it's well-established in the series that Narcissa's primary concern is for Draco's well-being, and her support of Voldemort is very much secondary to that, a sort of family loyalty without any real passion behind it.
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