So!! Who's finished Deathly Hallows??

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RIVERDANCER

Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:40 PM

Really? All the forums are going dark? Weird. The whole gorramn plot is up on wikipedia, including a comprehensive list of all known deaths.
Killing Ron, Hermione, Harry, or Ginny would, as PR said, be a bold break from tradition, but I knew it wasn't gonna happen. And I think, clearly, that Dobby's death hit him very hard. Dobby was important to Harry. Harry dug his grave, carved him a little tombstone, thought he deserved a funeral and a tomb like Dumbledore, and was pushed into moving faster and with more determination. Lupin, as well, was very close to Harry's heart, the last of his father's dear friends, the man who taught him, possibly better than anyone, how to survive. The man who named him godfather. One of the spirits he summoned up to give him the courage to do what he thought was needed. He didn't summon Dumbledore, then. And, I think he was right not to, becuase he was feeling used, he was used, and even though Dumbledore was proud, even though he did care, even though he wanted him to survive and left a message with Snape in hopes that he would, like his mother, make the ultimate sacrifice and hence be sparred, he also didn't tell him everything he needed. I think he should have told him more. I think the puzzle-it-out bullshit was tiring. But I also think he was doing, like Harry, as he thought he must. But Harry was right to feel bad and right not to summon his shade. And right to go and do what he had to anyway.

On the patronus I've got nothing. I never saw Snape using it to communicate with anyone in the Order, so maybe he just never did. Maybe, in his role of spy, he couldn't. But it seems odd that no one would catch on, yeah.

ZEROKIRYU

Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:56 PM

The way Hedwig died was just wrong.

And there is a place reservered for Umbridge in the Special Hell.

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SAB39

Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:00 PM

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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
On the patronus I've got nothing. I never saw Snape using it to communicate with anyone in the Order, so maybe he just never did. Maybe, in his role of spy, he couldn't. But it seems odd that no one would catch on, yeah.

He did use it at least once, but possibly with Dumbledore himself who already knew. When Umbridge had Harry captive and Harry yelled "He's got Padfoot!", Snape contacted the rest of the Order to confirm Sirius was safe, and eventually to alert them that Harry may have gone after Sirius himself. Dumbledore said something like "I should mention that members of the Order of the Phoenix have more reliable ways of communicating than the fire in Dolores Umbridge's office" - and JKR has confirmed that meant the patronus thing. But I don't think it's ever spelled out (heh, no pun intended) exactly which members of the Order he contacted that day.

One thing I loved was the little nods back to previous books. At the Whomping Willow when Ron wishes they had Crookshanks to stop the branches for them, Hermione says "Crookshanks? Are you a wizard or what?". Way back in book one when they were caught in the devil's snare that's afraid of heat and light, Ron told Hermione to light a fire, she said "there's no wood" and Ron bellowed "Have you gone mad? Are you a witch or not?"

FIZZIX

Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:06 PM

Not worth staying up for, which I did. 7 hours of reading, including when I sat in front of the television, read only 4 pages in a half hour. Ouch.

I had mine shipped to me, so it got home at about 1-2, and I couldn't start until 3 (I was fuming.).

Honestly, the only prediction I got right (oddly enough I was all for Harry dies 1/3 through, Voldemort dies 3/4 through) was the ministry falling to pieces, but I heard a friend mention the possibility of Harry being a Horcrux! HOLY CRAP!

No kidding, she said this on Thursday. Weird.

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SHINY

Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by zerokiryu:
The way Hedwig died was just wrong.

Dear kids,

War is hell.

That is all.

Love,
JKR

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SAB39

Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fizzix:
but I heard a friend mention the possibility of Harry being a Horcrux! HOLY CRAP!

No kidding, she said this on Thursday. Weird.

Actually that's been a popular prediction for many months. I never believed it, sad to say. I did get a bunch of others right, though. My most obscure (that I never heard anyone else suggest at all) was that when Aunt Petunia said in book 5 "I heard that awful boy telling her about them", she meant Snape rather than James. Rather proud of myself for that one!

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:23 PM

Truth ?
I lay a lotta those deaths at the feet of dumblebore, and later, the order.

If AT ANY TIME, even one of em would have flat levelled with Harry, actually *trusted* in him, treated him as a person and potential adult instead of a 'thing' to be used - many of those deaths would not have occured.

I wouldn't have blamed him for ditching the lot of em, honestly.

If you've ever played the most recent issue of Bard's Tale for Xbox, there's a "screw both of you" ending that's a lot like that, which amused me to no end.

-Frem

TAMSIBLING

Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:08 PM

Okay, so I finished it about an hour ago. I have to say I was happy with the resolution - although I've got to admit I was expecting a higher price to be paid.

SPOILERS:

Not that I don't love Fred, but I really thought Hermione or Ron was going to have to pay the ultimate price - or maybe even one of the Weasley parents. Although I've got to say - Molly calling Bellatrix a bitch was just great!

I also really, really enjoyed the epilogue - remember, there are SPOILERS here folks, if you haven't read, don't keep going ...

I was glad to see the loose ends wrapped up and was giddy as a school girl at the thought of Ron and Hermione and Ginny and Harry getting married and having kids. I would have loved to have seen a little more immediate resolution/fall-out from the actual battle with Voldemort, but I think I can understand why Rowling didn't do it.

The only thing that disappointed me were the two chapters or so of obvious exposition - Harry in the Pensieve with Snape's thoughts (although I knew he was in love with Lily), and Harry and Dumbledore after he surrenders to be killed - those are the ones that immediately spring to mind. It might be that I've never noticed Rowling's shortcomings as a writer before or just that these are really obvious, but I was a might disappointed that she couldn't think of another way to impart this info to us and not all in the last 100 pages of the book. I think a lot of it was necessary, I just would have preferred it got spread out.

So, I guess that's it. Yes, the book was dark, but I wasn't expecting any less. I was really surprised when Ron left Harry and Hermione early on and even more surprised by Herminone's reaction when he came back. I thought for sure she'd let him off the hook a bit easier. I would have liked to have seen a bit more romance, but the kids are still pretty young and so I figure it's to be expected that there wouldn't be a ton of it. Still, aren't they all about raging hormones? Just kidding ...

I think all in all Rowling did herself proud ... and gave the fans a satisfying resolution.

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MAGDALENA

Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:37 PM

I don't agree with Dumbledore bearing so much blame - in war there are casualties and if Voldemort hadn't wanted to take over for his own personal power hungry reasons, Dumbledore wouldn't have made mistakes nor would Harry or members of the Order...

I also don't agree that Harry, Ginny, Ron or Hermione should have died. They had been preparing for this for a long time and were all quite talented and powerful witches and wizards for their ages... Ron might have been the weakest link in the group - but he had been there and done that more often than most members of the Order and there is always an element of luck in these things!

Just to be fair... though I didn't open this thread until I finished the book...

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I thought the description of Fred's death and the moments that followed were excellent... "The world had ended, so why had the battle not ceased, the castle fallen silent in horror and every combatant laid down their arms?"

Moments like this in your life do seem to defy the normalcy of life going on around you...

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REGINAROADIE

Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:51 PM

Although you have to wonder. Now that the series is over, what will she do now? She has more money than the Queen, so she could just easily say "bugger it" and retire. Or will she actually create new books that are separate from the Harry Potter universe? Of course, she could always fall into that trap of never eclipsing her previous successes. I mean, when you create a book series that is second only to the Bible as the most printed and most read bit of literature ever made, it's obviously going to be a tough act to follow. And the most famous authors ever could never really be known for more than their biggest successes. I mean, J.R.R. Tolkein never got past THE LORD OF THE RINGS and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, even after doing what he always wanted to write (historical fiction), was not recognized beyond Holmes.

Mind you, C.S. Lewis is recognized just as much for THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS as much as he is for the NARNIA series.

If she says "I'm never going to top the massive success I've had with Harry, so I'm not going to try.", I can respect her decision. But if maybe years later she does decide to write something new, I hope Harry Potter doesn't cast too big a shadow over it.

Maybe she could learn from Joss. Even with FIREFLY flopping, at least he's not known JUST for BUFFY/ANGEL.

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