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Why the Left is so dangerous

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:31 AM

I forgot un-deservedly and absurdly haughty condescending douchebags in my previous post.

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:54 AM

Well, way I see it goin, eventually it's gonna come to shootin between the wacko socialista hard left and the jackboot fascist hard right, and they'll mostly wipe each other out, at least one hopes.

Then us reasonable folk can move in and mop up what's left of the "winner" of said phyrric "victory" and the world will be a better place by just that much.

Bloody waste of good ammo tho, remember to load the cheap stuff first!

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:01 AM

Can't argue with that...I'd put my money on the whacko left prevailing, especially those G-8 anarchists... Man those people are either totally insane or totally fearless or both. What do they do the other 364.25 days of the year in between G-8 Summits?

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RUE
Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:08 AM

"The most important thing you can do is to get involved in the political process and get rid of all of these rotten politicians that we have in Washington D.C. ..."

Now this is just plain wrong, because as we all know, polticians are all moral, upright, honest people.

"... who are nothing more than corporate toadies for companies like Exxon and Southern Company ..."

Despite the fact that "Whitman left the Administration because (Cheney) pressured her to accept pro-industry coal power plant rules which threatened ghoulish levels of air pollution" this could not possibly be true !

"... these villainous companies that consistently put their private financial interest ahead of American interest"

Gasoline price gouging be damned ! That doesn't count !

"... and ahead of the interest of all of humanity."

Yeah ! No problem with burning it up as fast as we can !

"This is treason and we need to start treating them now as traitors."

After all, price fixing, writing public legislation, war profiteering - that's just good old American business !


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Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:26 AM

We hear that it's quite crowded now at Walden Pond, and there are ongoing reports of a worsening shortage of tree sap, edible roots, berries, and tree bark for food, shelter, and moccasin repair. To make matters worse, the Kennedy Estate is using it's considerable political influence to annex for their Nuevo Camelot compound huge chunks of the idyllic paradise under an eminant domain challenge in a case brought before Massachusetts District Court Judge Clyde Fitzgerald Kennedy. Some of the "Ponders", as they affectionately refer to themselves, have actually stated that they are reluctantly considering leaving Walden, and trying it one more time in America....giving 'ole Uncle Sam another chance so to speak. We certainly wish them all the best.

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:00 AM

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fredgiblet wrote:
Wednesday, July 11, 2007 14:07
Rap, I'm interested in knowing how this explains why the left is "so dangerous". Turning issues like this into political leverage is an old tradition on both sides of the aisle. The left uses the environment and civil liberties, the right uses moral outrages how is this any worse than anything that's been going on on both sides for decades?



There's a reason I posted Mr Kennedy's comments, and highlighted specific parts. Kennedy goes well beyond simple politicing, and makes the remarkably reckless charge that legal, tax paying companies doing exactly what they're suppose to do in a free society, turn a profit, are some how 'traitors'. So now capitalism is a high crime ? Or could it be dissenting from the view of man made global warming ? In an landscape were free speech is being threatened ( Fairness Doctrine ) or that ideas are being viewed by some as being criminal( Hate crimes, or comparing denial of global warming to that of Holocaust denial ), it's damn concerning. No where on the Right has there been anywhere near the talk of outlawing such talk and punishment dealt out for expressing one's view.

Furthermore, Kennedy goes on to state that they should be "treated like traitors" . To the best of my knowledge, a sentence of death is only once brought up in the Constitution, and that's for the high crime of treason. * You may check me on that, I'm not sure *. But the question is,what else can it mean when you're told to treat a person like a traitor ?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:10 AM

rue wrote:

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"... these villainous companies that consistently put their private financial interest ahead of American interest"

Gasoline price gouging be damned ! That doesn't count !



rue - Time and time again, the Congress has investigated the Oil companies, and not once has there been any indication of wide spread price fixing. The best they've come up with are individual incidents. So, since there HAS been no price fixing,I'm inclined to agree.....it doesn't count.

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"... and ahead of the interest of all of humanity."

Yeah ! No problem with burning it up as fast as we can !



Gee, who do the Oil companies do all that research, exploration, drilling, transporting, refining, shipping and selling to? Oh yeah..PEOPLE! If company A doesn't meet the demand, then company B will. Or company C....


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"This is treason and we need to start treating them now as traitors."

After all, price fixing, writing public legislation, war profiteering - that's just good old American business !



Except there's no price fixing, equal writing of public legislation by the Sierra Club and little if ANY war profiteering....... you have no case!


People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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RUE
Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:23 AM

I bet you believed the tobacco exces when they said it wasn't addictive.

Anyway, I have things to do. I'd stay and chat but ... maybe someone else will have the patience.

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:28 AM

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Well this seem like a red herring to avoid responding to Kennedy’s fruitcakey comments but I didn’t really expect an answer anyway.
If you had restricted your response to Kennedy, I would have also. But you're the one who expanded the topic and attacked liberals rather generally not just Kennedy, and I'm responding to your post.
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Your description of patriotism is a convenient excuse to be critical of a government run by an administration you don’t agree with, more then it is a love for your country, I suspect. A lot of people use patriotism as an excuse to attack the government. There isn’t anything wrong with being vigilant to preserve a liberal government (in fact I would say that it is incumbent upon us to be a free people), but that’s not necessarily patriotism. It’s probably better described as republicanism. You could argue that one could be a republican because they are patriotic, but I don’t think you can define patriotism as republicanism.
Um, did you toss out one undefined term to define another? I'm not sure I know what "republicanism" means.
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Patriotism is love for one’s country. It has nothing specifically to do with the government. You can love your country even if you live out in the woods away from any government involvement, or even if your government is an oppressive regime.
What form would "patriotisms take if the government WAS an oppressive regime? What would patriotism in action look like to you?
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Patriotism is the glue that holds us together as a nation. .. We must be American to be a country, and in order for us to be American we must want to be American.
Okay, waht is being "American"?
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We must love our country. We must have a desire for our country to be successful, a single unifying idea that leads us forward as a people. We are an extremely diverse people and we are very proud of our individuality, and these things can be strength, but they are also a recipe for conflict and disagreement. Patriotism is an ideal that gives us a sense of unity, a sense of nationality, something that we can agree on, even if we agree on nothing else.
But I want my country to be successful too. We may have different ideas of success.

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:25 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
I bet you believed the tobacco exces when they said it wasn't addictive.

Anyway, I have things to do. I'd stay and chat but ... maybe someone else will have the patience.




Don't try to side step the issue by bringing up tobacco. Totally irrelevant. You can't respond because you can't find where 'Big Oil' has been caught fixing gas prices. So instead of admitting you're flat wrong, you run away while throwing up a smoke screen ( pun intended )

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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