This May Have Been Posted Here, But I'm Foaming at the Mouth Reading This

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Monday, December 24, 2007 20:06
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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 29, 2007 12:22 PM

A young man's life ruined.

Several questions before you read the article you need to ask yourself.

1) Is oral sex a crime that should be punishable by law?

2) If you answered yes to number 1, do you belive it to be a crime worthy of being put in prison with rapists and murders and drug dealers for 10 F***ING YEARS!!!?

3) Is it okay for two minors, a boy of 17 and a girl of 15 to have sex, oral or otherwise, if it is concentual. (I'm not asking morally speaking here, but rather if either party should be allowed to be punished by law, as if we all lived in Salem and hopped in the Delorian and went back to 1692.)

4) What would make one party the victim of a crime in this case and the other party a viscious molesting rapist (given that they were both minors and it has always been said by both parties involved that it was concentual from the start)? Is he the rapist because he was a man? Is he the rapist because he was 2 years older (yet still a minor)? Is it fair in your eyes to single out one party here when both were obviously to blame for engaging in this "horrible crime".

Who the F*** does this mother F***ING judge think he is?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19468666/

This boy's life is ruined. He was unable to finish high school with his peers, and will likely have a "sexual offence" on his record which will lump him in with child molesters in general and it will effect his ability to get a good job and, if not directly it will indirectly effect his personal life, given his immediate "handicap" and "dark history" going into any relationship. He was probably an otherwise normal kid who, since "graduating" from juvie, has spent the last 28 months in prison, not jail, PRISON! All because some holier-than-thou judge has passed a brutal judgement upon and has repeatedly denied bail for the kid. In that bastards own words "Wilson's conviction for one of the so-called 7 deadly sins makes him ineligable for bail."

F*** YOU Judge! Where is there justice in this country. I look very hard for it every day, yet it illudes me.

Is there anything we can do for this kid? There's got to be something that can be done. According to the article, a prominent New York City investment manager Whitney Tilson and 10 others volunteered to provide $1 million bail money for Wilson.

If they can't do it, I don't know what the hell to do, but I just recently lived those years of my life and I have to say that so far, my 17th to my 23rd year of my life were the best I've ever had and I just couldn't imagine pissing it all away in a prison with rapists because I had sex with my girlfriend on New Years Eve. I'm sick to my stomach for this kid right now.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

KANEMAN

Friday, June 29, 2007 1:55 PM

That is crazy. Try remembering back to your high school days......How many 17 or 18yr. old seniors "dated" 15 yr. old freshmen?

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:20 PM

And yet it's a probation offense for Rethuglicans to go around humping the interns, ironic, eh ?

Notice how the ACLU is all so fired up hot to defend sleaze like Patrick Naughton, but in this kids case they're all hands-off - and ppl wonder why I hate em so.

Stuff like this is why I also do not work with fanatics, when it comes to it, they overreact with this kind of idiocy.

I'll get on the pipeline later today, if it can be done, it will be done - I don't give this case a week before we blow it to powder tho, honestly.

The problem is how many cases like this do not get enough notice for someone able to un-fubar things to DO something about it.. recently we had one guy get lit up on these kinda charges for naught more than taking a leak behind his house while waiting for a locksmith after lockin his keys in the car by accident.

Common sense just ain't all that common when it comes to the judges bench, is it now ?

We need to get our damn priorities straight.
http://www.protect.org

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:23 PM

Minors cannot legally consent to anything.

The statutory rape laws in America were designed with that important basis as their cornerstone.

Now as far as this particular kid.... 10 years is absolutely ridiclous. If I were the judge I'd sentence him to no jail, just maybe 100 hrs. of community service helping kids with cancer or something.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:40 PM

Frem man....

I don't know who you are, or what people you know, but you've never seemed to me to be the type to bullshit about anything. If there is anything at all that you can do for this kid I'll be very greatful to you and happier than a pig in shit that I brought this story here for you to see.

In any event, thanks for taking any of your time out of your day and trying to help this kid. Anything I can do to help?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:41 PM

This is EXACTLY what's wrong with this country!!!! NOBODY can just say "I was wrong."
Especially courts and judges.
"I was wrong to bring this to trial." You'll NEVER hear those words from a prosecutor, they have to go balls out on everything to preserve their financial asses.
Nothing makes sense when it's all about money- fines, fees, judgements.
Truth is killed so that the system can keep going. The system IS the truth now.

Chrisisall

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Minors cannot legally consent to anything.

The statutory rape laws in America were designed with that important basis as their cornerstone.

Okay. This may very well be true, according to law in America, but is it a wonder that we've got millions of man-children roaming the plains of America? Why is 18 the magical age somebody is granted the ability to think for themselves and deal with the consequences of thier actions?

Bottom line, I don't agree with that at all. Not the fact that what you're saying is the law isn't true, but that I don't agree with the law itself, particularly when you're talking about two minors having sex. I'm not using the "legal" definition of conscent here. I'm using the English definition of conscent meaning two kids wanted to blow each other, neither was an adult taking advantage of the other, and they weren't doing anything else that at least a million other kids their age didn't do that year. Big f-ing deal, I say.

Quote:
Now as far as this particular kid.... 10 years is absolutely ridiclous. If I were the judge I'd sentence him to no jail, just maybe 100 hrs. of community service helping kids with cancer or something.

Funny... I said pretty much the exact same thing to my brother today. As my Hunter Thompson quote says above, "the only final sin is stupidity". So the kid didn't think and took a video of it. If that video didn't exist, this kid would be living a normal life now. I'm glad we agree that this self-righteous ass of a judge had no business ruining this kids life for something he may very well have done himself at that age.

Let he who is free from sin cast the first stone. He must have been too busy watching football when they had the sermon on that chapter of the Bible...

Four years wasted.... over nothing. I hope somebody can get that kid out before he's my age and lost the best years of his life completley.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Truth is killed so that the system can keep going. The system IS the truth now.

Does 2+2=5 yet Chris?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

STARRBABY

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
That is crazy. Try remembering back to your high school days......How many 17 or 18yr. old seniors "dated" 15 yr. old freshmen?

My highchool days were about 10 years ago, so they are pretty fresh in my mind. I dated a 17/18 year old when I was 15/16 years old. We had a pretty chaste relationship, and I look back on our fun times fondly.

Had we decided to become physical with our relationship, It makes me ill to think that the poor guy would *still* be behind bars had my father pressed charges. Here I'd be, an adult with a college degree, a husband, a few kids . . . and he'd have no life, and he'd just now be getting out of prison.

Statatory (sp?) rape laws are not meant for these types of situations. They are meant to protect naieve kids for not-so-naieve adults. I hardly feel that the 18 year old was preying on the 15 year old.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:56 PM

Yeah there is, Six - get on the horn yourself to your local politicos with a healthy dose of "WTF is up with THIS shit ? am I gonna hafta worry about my kid winding up a sex offender on prom night ? what the hell is WRONG with you folks... yadda yadda"

Lay it on good and thick too, go for the cringe factor, cause you want em worried about how their community would react to such idiocy, and make it unmistakeable that said reaction would be bad.

Then pass it to the local newsies, if possible put the arm on one who has kids of this age themselves and push em to slip it in as their human-interest piece of the day.

Politicos HATE the spotlight coming down on them, and this'll fix it for the time being - but if you wanna more lasting solution you find out who appointed that judge and ensure THEY get an earfull too.

All that's the aboveboard stuff, of course, but it makes a difference, cause public pressure of a couple folks ain't much, but multiply it a bit, and it's like a tree root under a sidewalk, in the end the sidewalk ALWAYS loses, even though it's made of concrete.

Think on that one a while - just get enough thumbs on the bastards that they start to sweat it, and sweat it good.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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