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Buffy season five: Name the really good episodes...

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, June 7, 2007 03:50
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Monday, May 28, 2007 4:33 PM

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:

Oh, don' get me wrong, I'm a Riley fan myself. I just was happy that he (as well as Xander) was able to say some important things to Buffy that she really needed to hear.


It's just that feeling like she could have held on to Riley if she'd gotten there a moment sooner, combined with her Mom's leaving put her in a place where she was okay with dying to protect Dawn; in fact she welcomed it. I find that pretty sad, almost too sad to watch sometimes.

Poor Chrisisall

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Monday, May 28, 2007 6:27 PM

Suprised (or maybe I am having a special moment and missed it) that no-one mentioned 'Family'. This is one of my favourite eps of season 5. I liked how Tara properly came into the Scooby Gang at the end, and how it revisited a classic Joss theme of women being repressed.

Plus, it had a couple of classic humour moments (for me anyway). Riley's "Huh..then how come Xander didn't laugh?" followed by Xander's reaction and when Tara is thanking Giles for the cheesy crystal ball and then Dawn jumps into the picture with a broomstick - I was laughing my head off. And of course the nice (although classic Sunnydale-Syndrome) moment at the end with Willow and Tara floating. Awwww...


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Monday, May 28, 2007 9:24 PM

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Originally posted by HerouvCanton:
Nobody ever picks "Triangle", but I've always loved that ep. Abraham Benrubi is hilarious, and I just love the campiness. I love Willow's response after Olaf destroys the magic shop: "He's no ball of sunshine...", not to mention the back story to Anyanka. A great stand-alone episode.

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Absolutely! Not only is it one of the best eps of S5, it goes in my top ten list of favorites from the entire series.

"Fool for Love", "Intervention", "Triangle", "Real Me", "Crush", "Forever", and "The Gift" would get my votes as the best. "The Body" is obviously incredibly well done, but it's just so difficult to watch that I have a hard time listing it as a 'good' episode...

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Monday, May 28, 2007 9:50 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
It's just that feeling like she could have held on to Riley if she'd gotten there a moment sooner, combined with her Mom's leaving put her in a place where she was okay with dying to protect Dawn; in fact she welcomed it. I find that pretty sad, almost too sad to watch sometimes.

Poor Chrisisall



I don't know. Even if Buffy had gotten there on time, I still don't think things would have worked out. Riley's problems weren't just about Buffy; he needed a purpose in life, something he lost after the Initiative went under. And since Sunnydale already had protectors, I'm not sure there would have been room for him (or that room would have been made for him).

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Monday, May 28, 2007 9:58 PM

yup "real me", it was a great introduction to dawn, it really worked (I thought) the way they plonked her in with no apologies or explanation, and made it seem like she really had been there along. plus as a middle child I can relate to both dawn's pain at being a younger sister and buffy's annoyance at being an older sister, that was really well done.

I love "triangle" too, anya's one of my favourite characters so it was brilliant to see her flashbacks.

fool for love and the body, obviously, goes without saying...

other than them I think my favourites are blood ties, family and the weight of the world...

I don't really like the joyce's illness arc, I've never liked her, I found her intensely irritating right from the first episode so although they were good and important and everything, they're not one's I like rewatching much



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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:37 PM

I think 'Real Me' was the worst episode of Buffy ever. That's right, move over 'Go Fish', 'Reptile Boy' or 'Bad Eggs'. I hated it. Hated it, hated it, hated it. Harmony did my head in, I wanted to take a big hammer and smash her right on the noggin. The fights were crap, Dawn was annoying (and annoyingly mysterious) and it just sucked. Oi! Real Me! Look over here!

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:39 PM

...one two three four, I declare a Dawn war....


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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:39 PM

NotAtAll, ChrisIsAll! I admit I didn't like Dawn for the first few episodes but after 'Blood Ties' I began to appreciate her character much more! Much like I did Connor after 'Spin the Bottle'. Maybe my dislike for 'The Real Me' is irrational, but that's the way the cookie crumbles!

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:56 PM

You didn't like Joyce? Huh. I actually found her to be something of an interesting character. Yeah, she started out as the typical "Mom" character. But from Season 3 onward, after learning the truth about Buffy and the world she's immersed in, her slow coming around to who her daughter is brought out a more interesting dynamic. That the fact that her daughter is a Slayer doesn't change the fact that she's still your child that needs protecting.

I loved at the beginning of "Gingerbread", when Buffy's on another patrol, and Joyce shows up, wanting to see what her daughter does night after night. I love it because it's a comic variation of a traditional parent thing. When a parent shows up while you're in the middle of something and be all "Don't pay attention to me." How can you not at a time like that. And then in "The Prom", when Joyce shows up to talk to Angel about him being Buffy's date. Even though he's a 400 year old vampire who walks the fine line between good and evil every day, she still treats him like he's any other boyfriend.

And then in season 4, my other favorite Joyce moment was in "This Years Girl", when Faith was holding her hostage. And after Faith goes on some tirade, she just goes "Actually, I was thinking my daughter is going to kill you soon." That moment tells us that she has fully accepted the world that she's been dragged into. That stuff like this is no longer out of the ordinary.

Giles may have taught her a lot about being a Slayer, but Joyce was as powerful as a role model in her life as a woman.



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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:13 PM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:

Giles may have taught her a lot about being a Slayer, but Joyce was as powerful as a role model in her life as anyone else.




Totally agree, RR, totally.

Missing Joyce Chrisisall

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