For all those who believe in Christianity or Some form of it...
POSTED BY: RiveR6213
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Okay, new thread. For all of those that subscribe to some form of Judeo-Christian religion that involves Heaven, Hell, Satan, Jesus, God, and our guest star, The holy Spirit himself. With a reflection of your current behavior and beliefs, plus your actions, plus all the thoughts that you have in your head on a daily bases.
If you were to die today. Do you think that you are going to Heaven or Hell?
I'll go first. If I were to die today I would go straight to hell. There would be no need for any form of judgment because I would have already admitted that I have lived my life in such a fashion that merits hell. My crime is I hate humanity and wish to see it destroyed. I see God's creation as a joke and the fact that God could create such a flawed creature called man shows that God himself is flawed and not worthy of worship. And also if I had the means to destroy humanity, it would HAVE been destroyed; I see no good in humanity. This is my primary crime against God and humanity.
My secondary crimes are the usual: Hate, lust, and talking smack against my neighbor. Greed is also high on the list, which I am guilty of all. I also like to kick people while they are down. I think I get a charge out of it, which is rather evil and petty.
In my heart of heart I've always knew that I would go to hell. When it gets right down to it...it is where someone like me belongs, and besides, I was never supposed to be here in the 1st place.
So before this thread gets tossed off into the bowels of Troll Country, what about you ladies and gentlemen? Where are you going to go...Heaven, or Hell?
-River
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Well, I shouldn't answer as I'm not in your group of "Christians or some form of it", despite being a preacher's kid. But what the hey, I'll answer anyway.
My own feeling is that death is simply the end of existence. Game over, amen.
I guess we'll all find out one day... or not.
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I am pagan ,so according to the Judeo -Christian philosophy..I'm gonna burn.
But I don't believe in hell..so it doesn't matter to me.
See you there River ! We can have a drink.
Bryce
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Oh, no, baby, no. You're not going to die. They are. Cover your ears. Hey, should we get a dog?
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Heaven, because it's not about works, it's about faith.
('Course, works are evidence of faith so there is no free ride)
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I'm shootin' for nirvana myownself, River.
Good luck in hell, I've always thought the company would be good. I expect there are some mighty interesting folks there.
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Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Okay, new thread. For all of those that subscribe to some form of Judeo-Christian religion that involves Heaven, Hell, Satan, Jesus, God, and our guest star, The holy Spirit himself. With a reflection of your current behavior and beliefs, plus your actions, plus all the thoughts that you have in your head on a daily bases.
If you were to die today. Do you think that you are going to Heaven or Hell?
I'll go first. If I were to die today I would go straight to hell. There would be no need for any form of judgment because I would have already admitted that I have lived my life in such a fashion that merits hell. My crime is I hate humanity and wish to see it destroyed. I see God's creation as a joke and the fact that God could create such a flawed creature called man shows that God himself is flawed and not worthy of worship. And also if I had the means to destroy humanity, it would HAVE been destroyed; I see no good in humanity. This is my primary crime against God and humanity.
My secondary crimes are the usual: Hate, lust, and talking smack against my neighbor. Greed is also high on the list, which I am guilty of all. I also like to kick people while they are down. I think I get a charge out of it, which is rather evil and petty.
In my heart of heart I've always knew that I would go to hell. When it gets right down to it...it is where someone like me belongs, and besides, I was never supposed to be here in the 1st place.
So before this thread gets tossed off into the bowels of Troll Country, what about you ladies and gentlemen? Where are you going to go...Heaven, or Hell?
-River
(A) Load of crap. I know you want to believe you are that awful, but you aren't. So nyah nyah.
(B) reincarnation baby!
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Heaven.
Because while God sees my need to go to Hell, The Devil wouldn't let me in (Here's a secret, all treknobabble-types irritate the shit outta Lucifer; Hell is essentially Trekkie-free)...
"Better check that particle condensor that ionizes your inverse-matter stabilizer, Beez, it's not as hot here as I'd heard...your fusion continuum-"
That was all the first Trekkie guest of Heck could get out before he was expelled.
Chrisisall
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The interesting thing about this is that we can't all be right. Leaving aside the postmodern disdain for truth, let's go with correspondence theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_theory_of_truth): truth is that which corresponds with the way things actually are. So two contradictory propositions can't be both be true in virtue of the law of non-contradiction ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction). Sor for instance, the propositions "There is a hell," and, "There is not a hell" cannot both be true. One must be false. And by the Law of Excluded Middle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle) given any proposition (e.g. "There is a hell") then the further proposition "Either there is a hell or there is not a hell" is true (even if the truth value of the original proposition is unknown). So the thing that fascinates me about this is not that people disagree; that's bound to happen. The thing that fascinates me is that sometimes people behave as if their belief alone is sufficient for something's being true. But that's not the case. Suppose that it turns out that there really is no heaven at all. If that's the case, the belief that there is one is false, no matter how hard anyone believes it. And, if it turns out that there is no heaven at all, no one will go there, no matter how hard they believe it. Reality doesn't map onto our beliefs about it. It just is. The best we can hope for is that our beliefs accurately map onto reality, because eventually we will all be confronted with the reality of what happens after we die.
And, since we're being asked: heaven. But even though I'm a Christian-type person, I don't have a traditionally Augustinian vision of heaven. My view is closer to that of the Patristics.
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Originally posted by Causal:
The interesting thing about this is that we can't all be right. Leaving aside the postmodern disdain for truth, let's go with correspondence theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_theory_of_truth): truth is that which corresponds with the way things actually are. So two contradictory propositions can't be both be true in virtue of the law of non-contradiction ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction). Sor for instance, the propositions "There is a hell," and, "There is not a hell" cannot both be true. One must be false. And by the Law of Excluded Middle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle) given any proposition (e.g. "There is a hell") then the further proposition "Either there is a hell or there is not a hell" is true (even if the truth value of the original proposition is unknown). So the thing that fascinates me about this is not that people disagree; that's bound to happen. The thing that fascinates me is that sometimes people behave as if their belief alone is sufficient for something's being true. But that's not the case. Suppose that it turns out that there really is no heaven at all. If that's the case, the belief that there is one is false, no matter how hard anyone believes it. And, if it turns out that there is no heaven at all, no one will go there, no matter how hard they believe it. Reality doesn't map onto our beliefs about it. It just is. The best we can hope for is that our beliefs accurately map onto reality, because eventually we will all be confronted with the reality of what happens after we die.
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Well said! But just in case there happens to be a heaven and a hell...which one are you going to go to?
-River
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What do you mean, this is Hell isn't it?
Hmmm this is a hard one. My family are all believers, but me, I was always the black sheep that way. I like to beleive there is something afterwards but I think it's neither Heavan or Hell, just a continuation. Heavan and Hell were invented by some guy to get people to do what he wanted.
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