Organise the revolution-for all FF fans
POSTED BY: Anduine
UPDATED: Sunday, May 13, 2007 22:26
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I 2nd that ditto. Just tell me what to do and I will do it.
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HI Futuremrsfillion,
I guess I didn't make myself clear. I understand that emailing everyone is a not okay with a lot of people. I won't advocate it any more.
And I do believe that info will pass from this site to others pretty fast. But who I am wanting to reach is someone like my friend, Rosie. She was a fan from the tv series. Loves the show. When I mentioned that I was now hooked on Firefly we batted quotes and episodes back and forth. AND then, I discovered she hadn't heard of Objects in Space. She had copies of the show copied from when it had shown but didn't even know that official DVD's had come out with more episodes. And she isn't the only one completely cut off from new info.
How can we reach them is my question?
To paraphrase Kaylee: Whedon's Firefly is just so lush. I want to take a bite out of it all over, you know?
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Another rant. My apologies.
I've said many times in this thread that I want to thank the 'old' (and I say that in the best sense) vets that are contributing and encouraging. We should heed their advice.
Although many here have not held the line for as long or not at all, we should remember that what we ARE doing here is important. Dont become discouraged. Listen. Learn.
But also keep in mind that this is how things change. I've seen it before. We may see it again.
Are we romantisising our efforts? Of course. No true change happens without hope of success. Are we being quixotic? Probably.
But as trite as this sounds it also reminds me of some of the best of what inspires us about the whole Firefly and Serenity message.
A group of motley underdogs with a half baked plan, getting the shite kicked outta them now and again, even at times antagonising each other 
, doing something against all the odds, and making a big difference.
We love the crew and Joss because in part they represent what each of us have felt or have lived. Thats why it's no surpise to me that many of the comments we get are that things have been tried before...because we all somehow spring from the same well of inspiration.
So what do we do? We keep on trying. It's how change is affected. Again. And again.
And maybe we dont win in the end. But we didnt lose.
I like the quote on the signature of a few that have posted: "Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal
You cant stop the signal.
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Anduine,
Under no circumstances (I think) is anyone saying you shouldn't try. What I am saying is LISTEN to the veterans. Those who have been part of campaign after campaign. If they tell you something won't work, HEAR it. Embrace it and think of something else. For example Sig is member number 5311, MurkyMerc is 2106 I think, TheOneTrueBix is like 10000, these people have borne withness to a lot of ideas - successfully carried out and some not so.
Redhead, as for your friend, the only way you would get to her is if the popular media talked about your campaign - for that to happen, you have to have a lot of Browncoats behind you - it would take the effort of ALL the boards in the verse, not just this one. It is a huge undertaking and is a very, very delicate process.
I guess what I am saying is be excited, we love to see that, but tread carefully and ensure that what you are planning to do doesn't bite us in the ass. I would hate to tell the world we were going to have a million man march and only 10 show up.
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Anduine,
Under no circumstances (I think) is anyone saying you shouldn't try. What I am saying is LISTEN to the veterans. Those who have been part of campaign after campaign. If they tell you something won't work, HEAR it. Embrace it and think of something else. For example Sig is member number 5311, MurkyMerc is 2106 I think, TheOneTrueBix is like 10000, these people have borne withness to a lot of ideas - successfully carried out and some not so.
Redhead, as for your friend, the only way you would get to her is if the popular media talked about your campaign - for that to happen, you have to have a lot of Browncoats behind you - it would take the effort of ALL the boards in the verse, not just this one. It is a huge undertaking and is a very, very delicate process.
I guess what I am saying is be excited, we love to see that, but tread carefully....
I agree so much you wouldnt believe it if I told you.
I started this thread so I guess what I'm trying to say is we need to listen to the long time....but sometimes, maybe, just a hope is that someone new comes along and looks at the old attempts in a new light. And maybe both old and new need that.
Dont worry too much. We'll dance our intoxicated new dance for a bit. Maybe it's even a rite of initiation since I'm sure you've done it too. But we'll need your comments even more once we start to focus. Until then though. No harm in doin the jig for a bit.
cheers
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LOL. I'm sure there's not a dry eye in the house.
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Originally posted by redhead:
How can we reach them is my question?
As an analogy, a drop in the pond.
Basically, we have no resources relatively speaking. So, word of mouth is almost our only friend. The story you told supports that this works. Sure, it's slow. But, other methods risk alienating potential fans and/or (more than just) risk getting our community a worse image.
As a side note, the only problem with word of mouth is the potential of the fundamentalist factor. Which unfortunately is what Browncoats are known for. This is something that we're going to have to try to shake. Perhaps later on, we could publish conversion etiquette guide lines.
*Not* pointing a finger at anyone. It's just the sad fact of the perception of our community.
But, I think we really need to remember that in the end (and I'm about to commit "heresy" here), FF is just a TV show and Serenity is just a movie. They are there for our entertainment and beating people over the head with them is a sure way to suck the fun out of it.
Ok, I'm getting off my soap-box now
One of the big problems with organizing a large group of people is logistics. The problem we have here is that there are several large groups of people that need to coordinate. Just solving this problem will be a significant step toward getting something done.
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What???
Just got on this morning and to my surprise this thread is now listed in Guerilla Marketing as opposed to the General Discusion board.
I know in my ignorance this posted both here and in General. And then a Cat takeover (which is a bit surreal) but an confusing welcome to a first post.
But how or who switched it over to here? I placed it in General because I felt that it was getting more exposure. Which I think it was.
This may be the better place or more appropriate place for it, but some explanation or justification would be nice before it's arbitrarily done by someone.
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:Quote:
Originally posted by redhead:
How can we reach them is my question?
As an analogy, a drop in the pond.
Basically, we have no resources relatively speaking. So, word of mouth is almost our only friend. The story you told supports that this works. Sure, it's slow. But, other methods risk alienating potential fans and/or (more than just) risk getting our community a worse image.
As a side note, the only problem with word of mouth is the potential of the fundamentalist factor. Which unfortunately is what Browncoats are known for. This is something that we're going to have to try to shake. Perhaps later on, we could publish conversion etiquette guide lines.
*Not* pointing a finger at anyone. It's just the sad fact of the perception of our community.
But, I think we really need to remember that in the end (and I'm about to commit "heresy" here), FF is just a TV show and Serenity is just a movie. They are there for our entertainment and beating people over the head with them is a sure way to suck the fun out of it.
Ok, I'm getting off my soap-box now
One of the big problems with organizing a large group of people is logistics. The problem we have here is that there are several large groups of people that need to coordinate. Just solving this problem will be a significant step toward getting something done.
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I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
Sigmanuki!
Actually you do fine on the soapbox. And I agree with your comments way too much. Especially the last bit regarding logistics and coordinating everyone. Achieve that and that would be an accomplishment.
And that is what this post is about. Organise. Myself, I've got some take aways from this and will work with a few that have expressed or offered their time to sift through all of this and add some content or depth. Look at what's been done, get some advice from vets...then see what happens.
I thought about ending this thread and starting another...but I kinda like it as a running suggestion box/post. We'll see.
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