Organise the revolution-for all FF fans
POSTED BY: Anduine
UPDATED: Sunday, May 13, 2007 22:26
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Here's a scenerio for what it's worth.
Say you have 50 or 100 people flood with email, phone and hardcopy mail, SciFi or someone related to the production (I know Joss doesn't have a fan email) that's high profile.
So you flood them with 100 letters, emails, etc. by asking something SIMPLE. For instance one big question is what are the hurdles to get the series picked up, or another sequel, etc. Not even begin to push towards the final goal. Just something simple that doesnt cost SciFi or Joss Whedon anything to answer.
Now you have a bit of a fuse. I think that a thread that boasted say a letter or contribution by a SciFi VP or Joss or one of the assistant producers may get noticed on fan sites.
Now you got the fuse lit. So say that explosion now reaches only 500 or so (man 600 dedicated fans could do havoc), now your getting numbers to lite bigger fuses.
As it's been pointed out and I've seen there has been a lot of success already with fans from this site and others. We just need another drive to if nothing else keep the fire going.
So we take the 500 and then move on to bigger things keeping the focus. Build as we go. ANd hopefully there may already be an eager infrastructure out there that we will learn to tap in to. This is the simple version of course. It's worked before here and a million other places. It just needs to be done again. And again....
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I found it.. thank god!!! I am here to give my all to the cause.... let me know what to do.
"Fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountian"
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Originally posted by Anduine:
But that doesn't answer your or my question. How do you get them all on the same page?
Anduine, welcome to the 'Verse.
I started a reply to your other thread but ya'll are busy. So I decided to drop in here and post this really quickly and then I'll talk a bit in the other one.
Last year after the movie failed at the box office and before the June 23 Can't Stop the Serenity screenings and before the release of the BDM on DVD and before the anniversary of the BDM's release in theaters, not necessarily in that order, lol... we (meaning 11th Hour, me and a couple of other BC's ) headed up a bunch of folks who did some shiny things to promote the 'Verse.
We laid in place some constants that you're not aware of because frankly right now we're in flux... we're in the middle of a bunch of stuff.
There is in place a group of BC's who belong to the Browncoat Signal Corps , see this website:
http://www.geocities.com/browncoatsignalcorps/index.htm
who routinely spread the word throughout the 'Verse about what guerilla marketing stuff is being done and also any news of the 'Verse.
So that is already done.
Also, there are plans in place, not implemented yet, for a Big Buy of the BDSE when it comes out.
There are plans in place to be supportive of the Serenity screenings for charity which allows us to do so much good, have so much fun and also get real press for our movie and cause.
There are plans in place to communicate with SciFi regarding Firefly and Serenity.
We've just not begun yet.
As PhoenixRose has intimated above, we're busy, you just caught us in between.
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Originally posted by Anduine:
Do you know if that's correct? And do you have any idea's of where we could find a credible source to confirm/deny any of the potential conflict issues?
I don't believe there is any way for us to know this fact truly, unless one of us here is a studio exec at Universal. They've not spoken up the entire time I've been here so I don't believe so.
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Thanks! And once again I am sorry to any of the fans I may have offended in my frustration. Without your long standing fight and dedication we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Actually it's the veteran BC's whom I'm grateful to. They were here and on the OB and they held and were active enough to make a viable audience obvious to Universal.
Those of us who did in any small way anything to promote the 'Verse afterwards are still struggling.
Look under the Guerilla Marketing forum down below the General Discussion forum... peruse back in time some and check out what's been done to see what won't work, what's been done and to see what might still be possible.
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FollowMal!
Thanks!!! Have heard about your legendery exploits and am grateful you came with info.
Went to the website and plan on joining the rebellion so to speak.
Give us some more info on future plans. There are obviously a few of us new to the site. For myself I'm thinking or asking what your plans are for SciFi campaign.
I'm guessing that there are enough new volunteers here to help make an impact.
And Wolf. What about the specifics on hosting a general chat this Sunday!
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Some of these ideas are pretty nice - just had one of my own (might not be feasable but what the hell)
I think that the main way to get a fan based mobilized is via star power. Many of the actors/actresses on firefly are still dedicated to it. If we were able to communicate our plan to someone like Nathan maybe we could get them on board.
Not strictly bring to back firefly but maybe a type of firefly day - support the sponsors who made it happen etc. A youtube movie of Nathan or some of the other actors talking about it might be able to access a large amount of fans.
Well just my two cents worth
good luck
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Originally posted by Anduine:
Give us some more info on future plans. There are obviously a few of us new to the site. For myself I'm thinking or asking what your plans are for SciFi campaign.
Anduine, I'll be happy to. I need to consult with TDBrown, as he's the master of ceremonies coughinchargecough and I'd have to get it from him and lay it out for you. I am but a humble soldier in this.
There are some things I am aware of that the entire fandom is doing and I'll start a post this evening in the Guerilla Marketing forum and lay those out.
Then I'll be back tomorrow and lay out what is planned in the lead up to the BDSE release day and with SciFi.
Please understand... I don't believe there's any way that Firefly can come back. Serenity now, that's another story. I don't mean to dampen your love or enthusiasm, but part of doing a job means looking at how to do it practically. Practically, Firefly is dead. If they ever do make another series, it'll be one with other people on another ship in the same 'Verse. Joss isn't ready to go there by his own admission, so that's not happening. That leaves us with Uni and Serenity.
The way it is, is the way it is as Mal would say.
To make a difference, we need to know what job we're doing and get it done.
All the new fans ( you! ) and all the enthusiasm is so very shiny! And please, just because I'm talking about our ideas doesn't mean we don't welcome nor support new ideas and new folks doing things. There are just some guidelines as fans we'd like to see followed. It's not an enforcement of those guidelines, understand... it's a request.
We are a group of folks grounded in some pretty awesome predecessors. To live up to what they've done, it takes work, character and dedication. And rules.
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Originally posted by Ghoulfish:
Some of these ideas are pretty nice - just had one of my own (might not be feasable but what the hell)
I think that the main way to get a fan based mobilized is via star power. Many of the actors/actresses on firefly are still dedicated to it. If we were able to communicate our plan to someone like Nathan maybe we could get them on board.
Not strictly bring to back firefly but maybe a type of firefly day - support the sponsors who made it happen etc. A youtube movie of Nathan or some of the other actors talking about it might be able to access a large amount of fans.
Well just my two cents worth
good luck
Ghoulfish, we already have something very like this. It's a great idea, albeit already in action.
The Can't Stop the Serenity screenings that will occur in June for Joss' birthday are a fandom wide event. Joss and some of the BDH's will likely appear at a screening somewhere. There are some veteran Browncoats who will be outspoken about this. It WILL appear in the regular press and in the Equality Now yearly report which will receive regular press.
This is the shiniest moment in our fandom. We give instead of asking for something, we give to folks outside our fandom, we gather together and enjoy ourselves and are good to each other, and we get good press too. It's a huge win/win situation and deserves all of our attention and mobilization.
Asking any of the BDH's or Joss to support a fan started buying spree or a writing campaign is not an option IMHO. That stuff is up to us.
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Originally posted by Anduine:
I've read quite a few posts about the futility of trying to get Fox or another network to resurrect the series. All I can say is sad...
I think (and maybe in my ignorance) that what's needed here is a catalyst of some nature to organise a credible and effective campaign.
Underdogs that we are, seriously, so what if we meet with defeat. Again and again. It's far better than wallowing in self pity.
Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.
It took years of efforts by the fans of Star Trek until we saw vindication...
The keyword here is to organise. And one place it can start is right here. So the real question is how do we start? It will take time. It will take logistics. It will take building a group of people from all talents, which should be here and readily available, unless cynicism has prevailed. If the show is worth it, than it's worth winning, but it's also worth defeat. But at least we can make a noise that will cause a few to tremble.
I have some thoughts, but more importantly I also have some ammunition. As in the contact info for all the major advertisers on Fox. If this post get's enough of a reply or comment...then...let's take the next step and initially figure out a way to use what we have and logically plan out the attack.
Or. We can always sit around and complain.
thanks for listening,
Anduine
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Thanks for all the positive comments! It's great to see this thread picking up and the wealth of experience and idea's.
I agree on the outlook of Serenity possible vs. FF not. But I'm gonna hold to my dream and push for both.
Realising that Joss and crew may have their minds made up, I've seen minds change with support.
After all the man himself stated in the DVD that there shouldnt have even been a movie.
We gotta a bit of brilliant support here and we just need to keep the river running.
I'm keepin a list and checkin it twice. Looking forward to the Sunday chat with all.
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