Organise the revolution-for all FF fans
POSTED BY: Anduine
UPDATED: Sunday, May 13, 2007 22:26
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Some great ideas bouncing around.
Personally I like the idea of a support the advertisers day to start such a campaign then boycotting anyone. A boycott shouldn't be considered as a tool to get something you want as it is seen as aggressive and not in the spirit of cooperation.
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Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.
And people got murdered for decades. Even without the politics, this is tasteless.
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I love Roy's ideas. Especially #2
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Package it to appeal to Sci-fi people who want quality shows on TV ?
Can we get a list of a bunch of websites devoted to Sci-Fi and approach people there? I'm willing to write up some kind of "news release" if there are betas willing to read and make suggestions.
Would other Sci-Fi fans want to support Universal? Is there another company, another day that has significance to the sci-fi fans as a whole?
To paraphrase Kaylee: Whedon's Firefly is just so lush. I want to take a bite out of it all over, you know?
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Originally posted by PeterG:
Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.
And people got murdered for decades. Even without the politics, this is tasteless.
Sorry if I offended PeterG. I grew up in Belfast Ireland and next time I go back for a visit I'll try and convey how tasteless it is for them to participate in the politics of struggle.
Don't want to turn this into a general discussion of my offhanded remarks (is there anyone out there that wants to take issue with my grammer or spelling as well?)But I just HAD to respond to that. THAT being said. I think there's alot of good responses here. I've noticed that there are other forums on other sites that are having the same types of discussions.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get everyone on the same page or 'thread' as that may be?
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Just a thought (and I'm getting gun shy about even saying anything without getting shot down here), but there are a few people over at the SciFi forum initially discussing trying to get SciFi network to pick up the show.
Maybe a good place to start is in trying to get a response from some network, either SciFi or USA or such, to see what it would take, and what the hurdles are. I know there was a pretty good campaign that the fans of The Sentinel undertook in 2002. They had gotten favourable response from Chris Regina (SciFi programming director) who went from 'they weren't picking it up' to one month later saying they would after these people kept contacting Regina.
I'm guessing in my tasteless and ignorant fashion (ya, it stings), that if there was anything resembling a poisitve response from some network it may act as a catalyst to get the masses going.
So I guess what I'm asking is how does the majority here feel about contacting SciFi in something resembling force to see if we can get a response? If you're interested I can get the contact info. Maybe Redhead can write the letter that we could get everyone to use?
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I'm in!
Now, What did the Sentinel fans do? Letter writing, Phone calls, Ads????
Can we come up with something innovative?
What I worry about is that I don't think Fox will just let the Firefly contract go. Some of the long term fans probably know about that. Could one of you fill us in?
To paraphrase Kaylee: Whedon's Firefly is just so lush. I want to take a bite out of it all over, you know?
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My two cents...
Joss has said that Firefly is gone, that even if there is another series, it won't be Firefly, and I agree. Especially after the movie, you just can't get that feel back. That being said, I don't think that we need to aim for getting the rights to the tv show (even if Fox TV does have them - anybody know for 100% sure with a credible source?). I say either aim for a sequel (which is actually preferred by the man and cast themselves) or a show that isn't Firefly, but is in the Firefly 'verse - just getting a network (preferably Sci-Fi, but only if they did it Joss's way. I've seen way too many Sci-Fi originals to want to see their take on Firefly. Sure, BSG was great, but that was one out of how many? But I doubt we'd have to worry about that, especially with how picky Joss is) to approach Mr. Whedon about any tv show in the 'verse would be a great first step.
Also, while I know that BSG came back, it came back with a different cast and crew, and I think there was a lot of money involved. Our bunch doesn't have a lot of money. So I think it's a great idea to get some advice from Star Trek fans who apparently did the same thing? I don't know this story.
Now.
I believe that Redhead asked for beta readers for the letter? I'm somethin' of a grammar and spelling nazi myself (forum posts do not count as evidence!), so if you want me to proofread a letter, let me know.
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Originally posted by shameless:
(even if Fox TV does have them - anybody know for 100% sure with a credible source?)
On the 'Done the Impossible' DVD the man himself tells the story of going to Fox Broadcasting when the show was cancelled and asking for the rights back so he could shop them elsewhere.
"They said yes. And I think that's the last time I ever talked to them."
I don't know who has them now. Maybe no one does. My theory (which those who know more about media are free to dispute) is that when the movie rights were optioned by Universal, there was a clause saying that the same 'verse could not appear on the small screen. Contracts have been signed for three movies, and those contracts (according to an interview with Sean Maher on brilliantbutcancelled.com) do not run out until September of this year. And those could just be the actors' contracts; there might be longer-term holding of the story itself, which would make a return to the small screen litterally impossible. Yes, Universal owns the Sci-Fi channel, technically, but they are still separate broadcast entities. If the movie contracts state something to the effect of "This story, this universe, and these characters will not appear in any media besides Universal motion picture for ____ years or three movies" then that's not going to change. I don't know if it said that, but I know I heard something about the small screen rights being tied up. Fox Broadcasting don't own them, so I suspect it was a clause in the movie contract.
In short, the push should be to convince Universal that a movie sequel is worth their time.
And implying that no one here has been doing just that since Serenity came out is kind of insulting. I have been a member of this board for about a year, and have talked to very few people here who have not done something to spread the signal. Flyers, bookmarks, aggresive loaning out of the movie and boxset, charity screenings, e-mail and letter campaigns, stuffing every poll we could find, all to get the word out to sci-fi fans that this 'verse exists, and getting the word out to sci-fi producers that we exist. We don't sit in apathy, we have not admitted defeat, and we do not drop our weapons to eat beans.
The reason I stayed away from this thread at first was that I didn't want to snarl at a new and enthusiastic Browncoat; that's self-defeating. However, you're not the only one who is enthusiastic, and I think you should do some research/thinking before you come in and tell us that we're not doing enough when we are and have been doing everything we can, and the army grows every day as the signal spreads.
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Originally posted by Anduine:
Just a thought (and I'm getting gun shy about even saying anything without getting shot down here)
Don't worry about getting shot down. There's always somebody who'll do that no matter how good your idea is. There's tons of reasons to not even bother with this. You'll hear them all. But, if you have the time and the desire, go for it. It can't hurt. There's nothing to lose. We've already lost it. Everything to gain. Drive on.
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