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Exploring Anti-Americanism

POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Monday, April 30, 2007 03:01
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Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:58 PM

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Are they defending their allies, threatening the USA or both?-Signy
Depends on the situation-Geezer

Okay, but this thread started out with anti-Americanism by people, not a cool-headed military assessment. So how do you suppose the American population would look at being ringed by Chinese forces? I think that it would create strong anti-Chinese sentiment.

Or how about American missiles in the Czech Republic. I suppose you'd probably argue that they're for "defensive" reasons and shouldn't be feared, but look at the crisis that was inspired by Russian missiles in Cuba. Same argument?

Geezer, I think you're demonstrating exactly why it is that so many people hate America. It seems constitutionally impossible for Americans to see anyone but themseleves and their own interests and viewpoints. Everything we do is "justified" by our puffed up view of ourselves as "peacekeppers" and "protectors" of the world. Nobody should fear us -despite the fact that we've outright invaded more nations than the USSR! We have positioned our troops, ships, planes, and prisons everywhere- Panama, Spain, Iceland, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Japan, Turkey, Italy www.libsci.sc.edu/bob/class/clis734/webguides/milbase.htm
and Africa:
www.afrol.com/articles/14269

As the intro the first link says The United States Military has maintained a strong presence throughout the world for decades, in times of war as well as in times of peace. Today, United States military personnel are stationed throughout this country and around the world

BTW, I wanted to answer your question about us maintaining a base where we were asked to leave by the government. We do. I'm going to leave it to you as an exercise in mental flexibility to figure out where that is.

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:07 PM

You know it really gets my blood boiling when people talk trash about America. I'm proud to be an American and proud of what this country represents.

I have an idea, if all the rest of world hates us sooo much why don't they stop cashing our foreign aid checks.

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:09 PM

Ozzy- How many nations has the United States invaded in the last 100 years?

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:11 PM

What are you getting at?

That we're war mongers?

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:16 PM

Well, how many?

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:23 PM

You know I don't come to the Firefly forums to debate politics.

But...

We've invaded quite a few countries.
Just to name a few....Germany, to stop Hitler from dominating the world....oh and stopping him from killing every Jew on the planet was just a plus.

Japan but hey they started it.

Vietnam, I gotta say maybe we should have left that one alone.

Korea, we should have followed through and finished what we started there.

Afganistan, I'm sure we have liberals screaming that this new invasion is illegal and we should have never gone to either Afganistan or Iraq. Let me just say that I'm glad we're fighting the enemy across the sea instead of in this country.
While we might not have found WMD's in Iraq saying it wasn't a threat is just incorrect.

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:25 PM

You missed a few. Google is your friend.

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:44 PM

I said to name a few.
Would you like a complete list, sorry not gonna waste my saturday looking it all up and then posting it for you, I have some war mongering paintball to play soon.

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:46 PM

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Originally posted by Ozzysun:

While we might not have found WMD's in Iraq saying it wasn't a threat is just incorrect.

Iraq WAS a threat...but no more so than Iran, Syria, Korea, China, Venezuela....should we invade every country that poses a marginal threat?
I'm always a little sad to see a Browncoat buy into the felgercarb...but not all of us have time to realistically assess what's going on.
Oh well.

Make the world 'America' Chrisisall

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:57 PM

Was Iraq a huge threat?....Maybe, I'm sure a few terrorists got their start there.
That being said I'm all for putting a stop to dictators that do what they did to the Kurds for example.
I'm all for putting a stop to dictators that have a policy of taking people for supposed crimes and torturing them. I'm not talking putting underwear on someones head or sleep deprivation, I'm talking about making a father watch while his wife and daughters are repeadetely raped in front oh him. Or cutting off his hand till he tells you what he wants to know. If you talk to most of the troops in Iraq right now you'll find out that the Iraqi people like us alot, and that the only problems in Iraq are a few insurgents from Iran/Syria etc. When my brother left for Iraq he was steadfastedly opposed to the war, after just 1 month there his opinion was changed. The affection that the Iraqi's showed our soldiers touched his heart so. I know the "old" WMD's we found in Iraq don't count, but I still think Saddam should have been taken out.
That being said I think theres alot more countrys out there that have terrible dictators but we can't get them all at once.

Irregardless of how America is looked upon by certain countrys in the world I truly think we live in the best country in the world. I can walk the streets and not worry about the violence that goes on in most of the world. I can send my kids out to play and know that their not going to be killed by some extremist that is planning on killing innocents in the name of his god.

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