Warning Signs
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Sunday, April 29, 2007 19:28
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Quote:Not everyone Soup. The moneymakers positively benefit from the fucked up system we live in.
But it's more than that. The social system has a negative impact on everyone involved.
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Quote:Between peers and over levels of hierarchy. Rarely over the coffeepot. In fact, I would discourage that kind of criticism and so do my superiors, if it occurred, but the people I work with are professionals, so it doesn’t occur. I encourage all my subordinates to provide criticism where appropriate. Perhaps in your case, where you have no overlap, that might be difficult, but nonetheless, certainly some degree of critical inspection goes into your office, somewhere. But we actively seek to encourage peer review so that when our product goes out, it is free of mistakes. I think it’s a crucial practice, and I couldn’t even begin to number all the corrections we’ve been able to make because of it.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Out of curiosity, how was this "competitive and constructive criticism" exchanged? Between peers? Through several levels of hierarchy? Formally? Over the coffeepot?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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We have all kinds of cross-checking. In fact we have three levels of checking: at the chemist, senior, and supervisor (me). That's not the same as criticism, tho. At some later date I'd like to get some insight as to how your group functions.
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I'm still confused about what professional criticism has to do with schoolyard bullying.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Yeah, I was wondering that my own self.
If we think of children as raw material that needs to be heated and beaten and combined until they are finally turned into swords then the schoolyard bullying makes a certain amount of sense.
Otherwise I'm not seeing much positive there at all.
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
2) Pressure has definately increased, both performance pressure and peer pressure.
Amen to the performance pressure.
I've been tutoring high school students in science and math for a while. I've also tutored on the undergraduate level (from R1 to community college) off and on for the past ten years. It is amazing to me the stress that these students are under and the schedules that they maintain.
It's been a couple of decades since I started high school and it is possible that my memory of that time is purposefully hazy. That said, what these students are going through is at least an order of magnitude greater than what I went through. One of my goals is to improve their learning efficiency because they see no way to slow down the amount they are trying to process.
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
I'm still confused about what professional criticism has to do with schoolyard bullying.
When we are younger and in school, the criticism is considered at a rookie level. I guess posters are trying to draw present day comparisons as most of us have been out of school for awhile now.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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Well clearly something is going on beyond the individual because there is a HUGE difference between our society and EVERY other industrialized society in the world. How do you explain that?
I guess that depends on your definitions; or are you honestly suggesting that w're the only country that has murderers?
Or mass murderers?
Or serial killers?
Or terrorist acts? (by the by if Cho had strapped a bomb to himself we'd be calling it that, not a rampage...same effect different politics)
Also there is already a disconnect between the fact that as contries go the US is one of the largest in size, population, culture, & personal freedoms.
Let us not forget that the debate has already mutated out there...the hardware is already becoming the focus, I have a question...how come a non-citizen can obtain the "evil hardware"?
Is anyone suggesting deporting the family (after all there is a history of mental instability in the family?), or is that too "incorrect"?
Let me ask you a question, or anyone for that matter, while the debate about hardware begins again:
Does anyone out there honestly believe that the police can "protect" people on an individual level?
Does anyone out there honestly believe that that is thier job?
Does anyone believe that a 90-year old woman with a walker is going to fend off an 18-28 year old assailent wielding a knife using hand to hand or melee weapons?
Do little old ladies or gentleman only get robbed in the US?
My wife weighs about 108 lbs. She is not trained in martial arts...same assailent what would you suggest she use...harsh language? (And spare me the platitudes about stun guns & pepper spray...stun guns are in close weapons that require Hand-to-hand skills to use effectively in combat & pepper spray is ineffective on many people)
Give me a realistic alternative & I'll be more than happy to listen.
Just keep in mind that the political powers of the world have been trying to take the power of the firearm out of the hands of "the common man" almost since it was introduced.
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
When we are younger and in school, the criticism is considered at a rookie level. I guess posters are trying to draw present day comparisons as most of us have been out of school for awhile now.
Ahh... well if the point is to find adult social settings analagous with public schools, prisons are a much better example.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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