Warning Signs
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Sunday, April 29, 2007 19:28
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It's really too bad that they couldn't have hung a " WARNING: ABUSIVE " sign or label around Cho, or all the other Chos out there, past, present & future like FFF has done in a few, highly necessary selected cases on these boards, branding the zanti misfits who don't seem to be with us anymore lately. A scarlet letter if you will, to be worn and displayed in humiliating shame in front of all who can stop to mock and judge. Maybe it could have stopped Manson & his gang of fun-loving chicks, or any of the hundreds or thousands of murderers and rapists known by the authorities to be, as the newspapers would say...well-known ticking time-bombs. FF Fans has given the good folks here the human rights decency at least to have the knowledge of what's around them that could statistically potentially harm or kill them. Those who innocently stumble upon those offensive posts have fair warning that there lies danger ahead if you go ahead and risk reading it. At least it's safe and secure in here.
I know that some of my posts in the past may have come real close to Reaver space in terms of appropriateness and civility; someone out there must have had their finger cocked and ready to hit the warning-offensive button on me on a few occasions, but through the grace of 'on high, and un-canny luck, I'm still here completely with a clean record, no label-scarred bundle of firewood here, just all shinylike; so to potentially avoid any, any possible slippage back, back to the dark and distasteful recklessness of anything I've ever written here in the past, present, and future; I hereby do offer the most sincerest apologies, and beggings for forgiveness. Anyone can feel free to just WARN me, please, if you think I could be getting even remotely warm to that special place in hell.
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... but just cuz ya asked so nice-like!
Having fun yet?
-Danny
A Ghost is all that's Left,
Of everything we Swore we Never would Forget,
Tried to bleed the Sickness,
But we drained our Hearts instead,
We are... We are the DEAD!!!!!!!!!!
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you sir, may I please have another?!
Whack!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's really too bad that they couldn't have hung a " WARNING: ABUSIVE " sign or label around Cho, or all the other Chos out there, past, present & future...
A scarlet letter if you will, to be worn and displayed in humiliating shame in front of all who can stop to mock and judge...
I'm not sure if you're going for irony here, or what, but this is exactly the kind of treatment that creates the Chos of the world.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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That’s interesting missive Jongstraw, but like Sergeantx, I see some amount of irony there as well, or at least a bit of satire…. However, you do raise an important question.
Should we be able to exercise our right of free speech in all forms, or temper our statements so that they are more acceptable to the mainstream? I am going with free speech – and I will steadfastly defend anyone’s right to the same, regardless of whether I am in agreement with that person or not. Now, having said that let me add that abusing the right of free speech is something we need to be aware of. I think there have been times when some people here have instigated arguments, either to gain attention or simply antagonize another person, when reasoned, deliberate debate of the issues would have been the better option – and I don’t exclude myself from that statement, as I have posted some things here that I probably shouldn’t have.
As far as an apology goes, I don’t think asking for one is necessary, but since you have asked, I am happy to accept it. I approve of the idea of the Special Place in Hell Warning – and would ask that any abusive posts on my part be noted in the same manner. I see no reason why this can’t be an interesting, entertaining and informative forum for everyone who visits here, regardless of differing opinions. We are a unique and diverse group of individuals who share a common bond in the appreciation of the works of Mr. Whedon, but that doesn’t mean we will all agree with each other on everything. It’s alright to express our own opinions on issues that matter to us, but we should be willing to respect and listen to different points of view without the conversation always degenerating into an adolescent name calling contest.
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There are so many ways to think about this and so much we don't know. As someone who works with people lableled as mentally ill, it's difficult to really know if and when someone will go to those extremes. I read that he was hospitalized and released. It varies state to state as to how an individual can be involuntarily committed and for how long they can be held. It's a tough call. Balancing individual rights and public safety. We help people with involuntary commitments and try to screen carefully before making a recommendation. You can have a relative or jolted lover who decides to get revenge.
People are afraid of mental illness and sometimes because of that they don't get the help they need. Even those who are suffer from schizophrenic symptoms other types of paranoia or delusions, most often are not dangerous. They are much more likely to be victimized. People that hear voices telling them to hurt themselves or others more often than not resist. I can't imagine how awful it would be to live like that and it's what I do.
Siri
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What do you have to apologize for. You said your mine good for you. I am offended that you think you offended me. Look their is real evil in the world. I sometimes wonder if demons take a person until he or she dies than the demon is released. I worked with more than one murderer, rapist, and bankrobber. One dude I remember was really odd not just like he has different views just look like he was always somewhere else. Just give ya the creeps. Two different dudes where ninjas one goes to a mall with a sword and the other murders his girlfriend with small children. One dude robbed banks during lunch. Cho was just wacked.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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I don’t buy the “I’m-serial-killer-because-the-world-didn’t-treat-me-right” crap. I was chastised for bad behavior when I was growing up and even chastised unfairly sometimes, I’m not a murderer. So it’s way way too simplistic to say that this was exactly what causes fruitcakes to emerge and kill people for no discernable reason. That’s just feel-good politics. People like to point the finger at someone or something, so in the absence of anyone to blame, but Cho, we blame the “world.” Because the “world” is the perfect scapegoat and perfect way of ignoring the problem. It would be better for everyone if we could identify the chos and deal with them preemptively before they go on their killing sprees. So maybe a more aggressive stance against this kind of thing would be appropriate. That’s probably easier said then done I think. And to be frank, I don’t know how to do it, or if it can always be done, but the first thing we should do, is completely eliminate the notion that it is even remotely acceptable to go on random killing sprees, because the world hurt your feelings.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And to be frank, I don’t know how to do it, or if it can always be done, but the first thing we should do, is completely eliminate the notion that it is even remotely acceptable to go on random killing sprees, because the world hurt your feelings.
That shouldn't be hard. I've never heard anyone say it is acceptable. But of course that won't make the problem go away.
Check this article out, when you have time. It's fairly long, but worth the read.
http://www.alternet.org/stories/50758/
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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