Season 8, #2 (SPOILERS)
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 18:10
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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Yeah I know thats when it relates to 'Chosen', it says that at the start of the comic too - my question is where the Buffy timeline fits into Angel timeline? How long between 'Just Rewards' and 'Not Fade Away'? Does Andrew make any reference to time passed since the events in 'Chosen' during 'Damage'? That would be a pointer.
I don't think we have any internal timeline cues but the usual assumption is that the episodes took place "in the present" So 'Not Fade Away' would be a year after 'Chosen' more or less.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
Loved seeing Giles and Andrew again, although would've liked it even more if it actually looked like Tom Lenk...'cuz it doesn't. It was only after I read (and reread) his lines that I figured it out.
Shame on you for not knowing who it was the minute the words "Lando Calrissian" left his mouth.
But, as it happens, I agree with you--looks almost nothing like him. Amy doesn't look like Amy, either. Giles does look like Giles... if someone somehow wound the clock back 15 to 20 years on him. It's more than just the fact that he's obviously using Just for Men--his whole face looks way younger.
Much as I don't love the artwork, tho, one of the things that had me
was mention in the lettercol that there'd be a new artist for issue #5, before going back to this guy for #6-9. The way I see it, one of two things happens: 1) The new guy's no better, and suddenly there's this one issue in the midst of eight others that doesn't match; or 2) He is better, and we're left with this tease of how good the books could be... 
One of the things I was really glad to see in this issue was the fact that the general obviously has something else going on, something all secret and occult and creepy symbol-y. It just didn't make sense, within the context of Joss's shows and what's already been revealed about the US government (knowing about vamps&demons as far back as WWII) that they'd NOT know what a slayer is, which side she's on, and would consider Buffy a terrorist threat. I know Joss is a big left-winger and would probably love to make a statement about the Patriot Act, etc., but there's such a thing as being consistent to the universe you've already created. If the general has some kind of hidden agenda for wanting Buffy & Slayer, Inc., wiped out, then yeah, okay, that works...
Oh, and as far as a timeline for S5 of AtS, "Just Rewards" was 19 days after "Chosen", which aired in May and was probably supposed to be set right around that time, as well, and "Life of the Party" was set on Halloween. So between ep2 and ep5 of S5, roughly 5 months appears to have passed
. The rest probably unfolds in real-time, with "Not Fade Away" happening around May.And lastly, maybe someone more used to deciphering comic books can help me with this, but what happens when the gang bursts in on Amy about to stab Buffy? You see a door on the right side of the panel, and a text that says "WHAM!" (or something like that). Was that just the door slamming open against the wall? Or was it slamming into Amy? 'Cause in the next panel, it doesn't look like she's moved at all...
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Before I actually started thinking about it, I would have agreed with you. Then I considered Angel Season 4. The events of that season are almost all immediately subsequential - from 'Apocalypse Nowish' to 'Home', I would put the time period as being a month at most. There are few opportunities for large off-screen timegaps. For example, do we believe the Beast rampaged around LA for months or that Angelus was locked in the cage for weeks on end? Or that Jasmine's 'happy reign' lasted for a couple months?
The other reason that I imagine Buffy Season 8 as running parallel to Angel Season 5 is there is great potential for moments in the comics to explain certain things in Angel Season 5. For example, who wouldn't want to hear Giles' end of the phone conservation in 'Shells'? Or to find out if the Slayers were responsible for the cyborgs seen in 'Lineage'? Or to hear Buffy give Andrew the instructions not to trust Angel referred to in 'Damage'?
*Edit* Groo makes a good point about the amount of time passing between 'Just Rewards' and 'Life of the Party'. Angel Season 5 offers a lot of opportunity for such gaps. As a random example, there is no reason why there couldn't be 3 or 4 months between 'You're Welcome' and 'Why we fight?'. This would give Joss et al ample opportunity to fit in the Buffy season 8 and Angel season 5 timelines if they so wished.
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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Before I actually started thinking about it, I would have agreed with you. Then I considered Angel Season 4. The events of that season are almost all immediately subsequential - from 'Apocalypse Nowish' to 'Home', I would put the time period as being a month at most.
Which is the more or less factor in it all. At the end of the season Angel 4 still meshed with Buffy 7 though. And I don't see any reason to suppose that the events of Angel 5 would have stretched over more than one year. It could have taken less but I don't see more. More than that though I suspect Joss chose the 18 month figure for the start of Season 8 deliberately to put the new story(s) comfortably after the events of 'Not Fade Away'.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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In that case, I suspect the Angel/Spike appearances in Issue 3 are going to be dream appearances. I doubt the issue of what happened in 'Not Fade Away' will be settled as a sidenote in the Buffy comics. Which then points towards Xander as the kisser to awake Buffy. Though I heard a nice idea that it will be Dawn.
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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Which then points towards Xander as the kisser to awake Buffy.
Can we assume Xander could kiss her without it leading to the two of them getting all couple-y? If Joss is planning on putting the two of them together, as is being hinted at in this issue, my reaction is a great big
. In that case, I'd almost rather he couple Buffy up with Willow. Buffy&Xander's relationship works perfectly the way it is--no need to change it.Of course, if they could have Angel&Cordy fall in love, then I guess any pairing is fair game...
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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Though I heard a nice idea that it will be Dawn.
I don't think Dawnie is quite that twisted.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Which then points towards Xander as the kisser to awake Buffy.
Can we assume Xander could kiss her without it leading to the two of them getting all couple-y?
The only requirement (assuming you trust that Amy is telling the truth about this) is that the kisser be pasionate about Buffy. Reciprocity is not required.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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I don't think Dawnie is quite that twisted.
Lol I just re-read the relevant section of the comic and right you are. Thats what you get for taking the info from random posters at face value!
I think we are looking at Xander as the kisser then. "Passionately devoted" doesn't have to mean love I guess. I wonder if we will see Kennedy in the next issue - you'd think she'd appear with Willow. If so...
I still hate Kennedy!But how good is to have something to speculate on in the Buffyverse again apart from endless scenarios about post 'Not Fade Away'?
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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
I think we are looking at Xander as the kisser then. "Passionately devoted" doesn't have to mean love I guess.
Assuming that Xander still has the passion thing for Buffy. I think by season 4 that was pretty much out of his system. Maybe not though.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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