Sex slavery still alive and well in England

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 6, 2007 1:46 AM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Adultery is adultery is adultery.

HOW will it be different if a spouse is cheating on his partner with a legal or an illegal prostitute?? Will men suddenly betray their wives more often than they are now, just because paying for sex is no longer illegal?

The act isn't any different.

Yes, the availability will make this happen more often. Let me put it this way, do you think that there are more people gambling now or less, since we've put casinos on boats all over the place and people can just gamble online, instead of having to make trips to Nevada to get their fix?

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Are you making a difference there between women who are prostitutes against their inclination and those who are at peace with their job? Or is it because they are having sex for money?

If a woman is forced into doing something, of course there is a difference made. I don't disagree with you about something needing be done about protecting these women who are used and abused and turned into sex slaves. I just disagree with your proposal for fixing this problem.

Anyone who chooses to use their attributes and abilities and sex to use another person for money is a bad person. I think this is probably where you and I differ in opinion and as it branches out from there we see even less eye to eye. I'm just glad that most of them are drugged up all the time and then, all to quickly, they get older and have no skills and nobody wants them anymore. It serves them right for what they've done. I don't feel any pity for them.

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Tell me, why do you think that all prostitutes have no self-respect? That they have no soul?

Is it about the sex or is it about something else?

Truethfully, I don't even know how these women can sleep at night. I'm assuming it's the drugs. I'm not a Puritan. I'm pretty much a heathen myself actually. This isn't about the sex in and of itself. It's all about the intent with which it is used. There is no love or emotion, other than the euphoria of the act itself. But as I understand it, just like porn stars, they don't get any feeling off of it and they're just really good at faking it.

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Why is it going to set back feminism? You make sweeping statements, but I would love to hear something a little more specific. How is it going to set back feminism? What about it?

There are a lot of serious and legitimate issues that Feminism has brought to the consiousness of the masses and, I believe, have changed the world for the better. I told you before I was raised by a single mother. She had a very hard time and the world made her a bitter and spiteful person. I remember how she was before she had to go back to work and it kills me to see what's become of her. She was right in the thick of it when women were fighting for fair and equal wages and sexual harassment was much more prevalant. She had gotten passed over for promotions because she would NOT have sex with management to advance her career. In the end she wen't from a lowly data-entry position to a salaried Project Management position, running telecommunication jobs in Downtown Chicago. She busted her ass and worked harder than most men I've ever known. She didn't get any overtime and yet she came home from work and put in another two to five hours of work on blueprints and the computer at home.

Everything that prostitution stands for takes away from what women like her have accomplished. I'm sure life would have been a lot easier if she wanted to whore herself out to her superiors, but she was a caring mother with self-respect who would never even think of such a thing as a possibility.

You wanted to know, now you know. Feel free to argue this point, but I grew up with this and there is nothing in the world that you can say that will change my mind on the fact that if prostitution is legitimized than everything my mother stood for was a joke.

"A gov

KANEMAN

Friday, April 6, 2007 2:48 PM

The only place on earth, where a perfectly good discussion on sex slavery/female brutalization can be turned into a civilized debate on the pros&cons of prostitution, is here in RWED. Truly mind boggling.........

CAVALIER

Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:50 PM

Well, a legal sex industry would tend to reduce demand for the illegal industry.

Personally, if you can do something for free, I do not see why you should not be able charge for it, or pay for it.

VINCENOIRROCKNROLLSTAR

Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:51 PM

`ow much for zee litlle gurl ...i wish to buy your wife `

shoot the moon ...shoooooot the mooon

OATH

Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:07 PM

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The only place on earth, where a perfectly good discussion on sex slavery/female brutalization can be turned into a civilized debate on the pros&cons of prostitution, is here in RWED. Truly mind boggling.........

Indeed. Ye gods, I've fallen in love with Kaneman...again.

Now, let's discard most of the political shit, and get back to the most basic of basics: a woman's body is hers alone, and what she chooses to do with it is up to her. Prostitution (like marriage) is a matter of choice on both sides, and that's where the difference between the thread's original topic and the one now being discussed is: as hopefully all of you know, a slave is without choice, while a prostitute is.

Now for a touch of political shit: The illegality of prostitution is what makes it so dangerous. It is the last option of burned-out girls who are absolutely fucked up. If it were made legal and regulated, then I guarantee you the girls who would make the choice to become prostitutes then would be a hell of a lot better off than if they made that choice now.

And maybe, just maybe, prostitution would become a respectable and honored profession sometime in the future closer than five hundred years.

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"WHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAA! THAT'S RIGHT! I'M THE BITCH WITH THE GUN!!!!!"

-Ertia, from Travel To Persephone PT 2 (Life Onboard Serenity)

CAVALIER

Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:21 PM

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Originally posted by Oath:
And maybe, just maybe, prostitution would become a respectable and honored profession sometime in the future closer than five hundred years.

To be honest, I doubt it. Its not a question of what the customers think of them, it's a question of what said customers wives and girlfriends think of them.

That said: Banning prostitution to benefit the prostitutes is like banning drugs to benefit the bottom tier drug dealers. It might make them richer - less competition - it certainly won't make them safer.

AGENTROUKA

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:45 AM

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Originally posted by Cavalier:
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Originally posted by Oath:
And maybe, just maybe, prostitution would become a respectable and honored profession sometime in the future closer than five hundred years.

To be honest, I doubt it. Its not a question of what the customers think of them, it's a question of what said customers wives and girlfriends think of them.

I'll sadly agree with this. More respected, certainly, but not all the way.

It's a sad aspect of human nature to blame the rival rather than the cheating partner.

(And it's SO STUPID, too! Competing for love is one of the most ridiculous concepts ever. And we're so beyong competing for mere procreation partners, but it keeps popping up as if the two are the same.)

I'll be satisfied when that irrational response, at least, doesn't impact rational, legal decision-making, in a "protect the customers from themselves" kind of way.

CAVALIER

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:55 PM

To be fair, it is not really stupid. If you drive your rival away you keep your partner. If you drive your partner away you...don't.

Perhaps the industry would be wise to point out that although some people leave their spouse for their lover, no man ever left his wife for his consensual sex worker...

AGENTROUKA

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by Cavalier:
To be fair, it is not really stupid. If you drive your rival away you keep your partner. If you drive your partner away you...don't.

What puzzles me more is.. why would they WANT to keep them, if they are so obviously inclined to stray?

Fidelity is a question of mutual agreement and respect. If there respect to stick to a mutual agreement isn't there, then the relationship is pretty worthless to begin with.

Yet people are far more comfortable clinging to the illusion that their rival is somehow responsible, as opposed to their partner's lack of respect.

It's sad and pathetic. I judge.

CAVALIER

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:57 PM

Don’t we all. I suppose it is like any other flaw. You accept a partner with flaw X, because the alternative may be no partner at all. And what if you are tied to your partner in some way – house, ambition, children etc?

Then too, is the important thing fidelity, or the consequences of infidelity?

As I understand things, affairs in Victorian Britain worked like this:

1) It is very difficult to get divorced, and almost impossible to leave your spouse for your lover.
2) A mans illegitimate children are not really regarded as his. They cannot inherit, and he has almost no right or responsibilities to them. Ideally, a mans affair should cost his wife and children about as much as any other hobby. From a coldly pragmatic view, his wife (and her children) have no more to lose from his mistress than from his golf clubs.
3) If they had had paternity tests, a wife’s illegitimate children might have been handled similarly. As it was, they did have primogeniture. If she waited until after she had a couple of healthy sons, doubtful parentage in subsequent children was much less of a worry.

In effect, the system regarded marriage as sacrosanct, and tried to eliminate every consequence of infidelity, so it was a relatively insignificant betrayal.

I imagine they would regard our views as ridiculously sentimental.

With a slightly similar idea, I gather there was an open day recently in the red light district of Amsterdam, to reassure wives, girlfriends.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070331/wl_nm/dutch_prostitutes_dc

The most optimistic marketing exercise in history. I wonder what their slogans were:

“Easybed: Because it’s cheap and meaningless”

“Mistresscard: Some nights in life are worthless”

More optimistically:

“Stand-ins ‘R’ Us: For nights when you’re just too tired”

Well, I suppose stranger things have happened in the last five hundred years

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