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Sex slavery still alive and well in England

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Friday, March 30, 2007 5:34 PM

Been thinkin' some more 'bout this....I keep coming back to the same thing:
What sick, demented & totally pathetic scumbag fucking losers would want to have sex with a whore??????????

With all the young girls running around these days...dressing like their media idol tramps & sluts, and with the collective morality of gerbils in heat...even fat, ugly, pimple-faced wimps and social misfits can get laid these days..without having to pay ( directly ) for it.

I've seen videos of guys in Amsterdam "picking" their whores from their little red windows...the whores all look worn-out, shabby, and "infectious", and the johns all look like that guy who survived in " Bushwhacked" later to become a Reaver.

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Friday, March 30, 2007 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Been thinkin' some more 'bout this....I keep coming back to the same thing:
What sick, demented & totally pathetic scumbag fucking losers would want to have sex with a whore??????????

Heh heh. Yeah, that pretty much sums up my personal feelings towards it as well. But for the benefit of the prostitutes and those losers they service, it should be legalised, for all the reasons already mentioned.



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Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:54 AM

Well, most of these questions do seem somewhat silly and answer themselves, but I'll give it a try.

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Who is eligible to have sex?



Any legal adult (meaning they are over 18 and legally capable of giving consent).

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How much can be charged for sex?



Pretty much up to the prostitute and the customers. This doesn't need to be legally regulated.

Hair dressers can charge as much as they want, as long as it's mutually agreed to and prices obviously vary quite a lot. It depends on what the customers are willing to pay and how much the prostitute feels she/he needs to make.

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What the government will take as "income" tax?

What the government will take as "use" tax?



I honestly don't know. How do they tax porn actors, for example? I'll honestly admit that I don't have the first clue about taxes, so I'll let other people answer this question, but I don't think that the answer is impossible to find.

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How long will it take the government to go from saying it's perfectly okay to have sex with a hooker to turning on it like they did cigarettes? You know, not making it illegal, but continually raising the taxes on it until it eats up a good portion of the john's income while the hooker doesn't even see a dime of it?



Purely speculative, since the dangers of prostitution (to health, most of all) are already well-known and it goes from illegality into legality first, unlike cigarettes.
Trying to justify crippling taxes would be harder because new dangers would hardly pop up.

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What social programs would the taxes be used to pay for?

Would the taxes be used to pay down the national debt?



Who cares? Again I ask about the perfectly legal porn industrie and where their taxes are going. I'm sure parallel solutions can be found and I don't see much uproar there.

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Who will protect these women in leiu of a pimp because these women will still find themselves in dangerous situations whether it's legal or not?



Depending on whether the prostitutes want to work alone or rent work space in a special house or even work together as business partners, private security might be hired.
Pimps could also still exist, however the amount of power they would be allowed to hold would not exceed that of any employer or manager, regarding the amount of money they get to keep for the services they provide their employees.

Prostitution is never going to be a safe job, and everyone should know that going in, but at least they will be able to go to the police now and report abuse without deterrant.

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If videotape is used to document any possible abuse either way, who gets to see it?



I think there are precedents for this type of thing, right? Instances where taping is allowed and where it's not and who gets to see the result in the case of it being proof of a crime?

I do think that taping would not be allowed without letting the customer know, and in the case of abuse the customer would get to sue.

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Will we put the pimps on unemployment or jail or will they become the hookers "legal" guardians?



Why on Earth would they become their legal guardians??

Pimp and prostitute, should they choose to work together, would be entering a legal contract of some kind, making them business partners.

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What is the punishment for abusing a hooker?



The same as for abusing any woman, of course.

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What is the punishment, if any, for a hooker taking a man for everything he is worth?



If by that you mean that the man spends all his money on the prostitute until he is broke, I'd say the man is out of luck. Adults should take responsibility for their actions.

Is it super-moral of the prostitute, provided she knows about the man's financial status? No. Is she under any obligation to protect him from himself? No more than any casino is re

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:39 AM

Wow. You have all the answers. I'll remember that the next time I have a question about..... well, anything!

Word up Mac Daddy Frem!

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:23 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Why oh why can't we impeach Bush?

Because Bush hasn't had sex with anyone out of wedlock, ask the Neo-Cons around here, lying about a blowjob which is no ones business but the man's, his lover and his wife anyway is far far worse than lying to start a war and the erosion of civil liberties. I mean it's obvious isn't it, Bush didn't have a blowjob, no grounds whatsoever for impeachment.

I mean, as long as the president is a republican they can bludgeon a woman to death with a six foot black rubber cock as long as he didn't get a blow job first, and he wasn't a Democrat obviously .
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I still feel there is a huge difference between the Burka and prostitution.
The philosophy behind the Burka is that Women's behaviour must be curbed to make up for the short comings of men. Just as the Ancient Greeks forbade Women to leave the home and it was taboo for Women to show their ankles in Victorian Britain. It is the philosophy behind it that's important, and thus I see no difference between the motivation behind suggesting prostitution remain illegal because men cannot control themselves to the motivation behind the Burka.

Both, frankly, seeks to punish women for a perceived inability of men to control themselves. I've been kind enough to give my reasoning (three times now) to which you merely reply "No it isn't". Either give you own reasoning as to why the philosophy behind the positions are not similar or drop it, because frankly you are beginning to sound like someone who cannot accept the implications of their position.
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Why oh why can't we impeach Bush?
There was no implication that you were a racist.
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That's the cit I know. Full of wit and sarcasm. Color me non-disappointed now!
I'm sorry? I wait nearly a week for your reply with good grace, you wait not even one day and start making glib responses like this?
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Would you be willing to admit that there is at least a possibility that there could be very real effects caused by the legalization of prostitution on say family life for example?
Of course, but all the supposed ills you see happening either happen right now or are simply ridiculous.
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What of my referencing blackmail?
What of it? You think men aren't blackmailed by prostitutes right now? At least with legalised prostitution this would be LESS likely to happen and at least they'd have the possibility of some legal recourse.
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Of course if you legalized prostitution, the government would have to make and enforce a hundred other laws regarding things such as:
Why? I don't see much in you're lists that don't fall under the preview of existing law:
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Who is eligible to have sex?
Ever heard of the age of consent?
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How much can be charged for sex?
Ever heard of market forces? In other words, what people are willing to pay.
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What the government will take as "income" tax?
What the government will take as "use" tax?

It has to be different from other services and transactions, why?
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How long will it take the government to go from saying it's perfectly okay to have sex with a hooker to turning on it like they did cigarettes? You know, not making it illegal, but continually raising the taxes on it until it eats up a good portion of the john's income while the hooker doesn't even see a dime of it?
Taxes are largely a responce to the changing knowledge of the health effects of smoking. The health authorities once thought that smoking was beneficial. When Sex is shown to cause lung cancer this argument might make some sense, but even so it is rather weak.
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What social programs would the taxes be used to pay for?
Would the taxes be used to pay down the national debt?

What are the taxes collected when you eat at a restaurant used for?
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Who will protect these women in leiu of a pimp because these women will still find themselves in

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Thursday, April 5, 2007 12:25 AM

It's impossible to answer these questions right now. You just can't do it, no matter how much you think you have the answers now. I'm glad to know that we have people who think they have all the answers. They never seem in short supply in here.

There will be court cases revolving incidents that happen if this decision is made and precedence will then be set. All of the liberties which have been curtailed around you didn't just happen... they took decades of planning and legal work. There will be jurys, there will be judges and there will be lawyers. The politicians will be all over taxing these services and they will cost much more than they do now. They've done it to anything else that is addictive and labeled it "sin" or "use" tax.

You aren't married, are you Cit?


Don't feel obligated to answer that. It was a rhetorical question anyways.

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Thursday, April 5, 2007 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's impossible to answer these questions right now. You just can't do it, no matter how much you think you have the answers now. I'm glad to know that we have people who think they have all the answers. They never seem in short supply in here.

You're questions mostly answer themselves. Why do you propose to treat Prostitutes any different to any other person?
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You aren't married, are you Cit?
Don't feel obligated to answer that. It was a rhetorical question anyways.

Are you trying to make a point?

You aren't married, are you Jack?



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Thursday, April 5, 2007 10:38 AM

These questions don't just answer themselves Cit. You have your answers to them, I have my answers to them, and so will every other know it all that has anything to say about the issue. O'Riley will probably tell us that anybody who supports legalization is a terrorist while Al Frankin will finally be able to take his male prostitute out with him for a nice dinner instead of having to meet in seedy hotels.

This stuff will become very real if prostitution is legalized and will spend a lot of time through the legal system because nobody will agree on the answers to them. Why are you so sure that your answers here are the absolute truth and that there won't be serious legal battles regarding all sorts of weird and unforseen shit that happens because of it. Do you honestly believe that there won't be thousands or tens of thousands of families or more that will be torn apart because of this? All I'm saying is that in order to abolish the law against prostitution, they're going to erect hundreds of other laws.

I have no respect for a prostitute because they have no respect for themselves. Prostitutes are sub-human, soulless beings. I have more respect for pimps because at least they respect themselves.

Seeing as how the woman's lib movement was all over Sheryl Crow's ass for being in a jack-mag for underagers (I'm refering to Stuff Magazine, FYI) right after doing Lillith Fair, I'm having a hard time believing that anybody here, pro women's lib or not, is in the majority on this issue. Legitimizing prostitution will set the woman's lib movement back 50 years and nobody is going to stake their political career on it.

But it's always a treat to hit our heads against brick walls in the mean time because neither of us is ever going to penetrate the other's thick skull.

No offence about the marriage thing Cit. I wouldn't believe you if you said you were though. I was just thinking that if you were married with children yourself your opinion on this matter might be a whole lot different. I can guarantee that your wife wouldn't agree with you.



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Thursday, April 5, 2007 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
These questions don't just answer themselves Cit. You have your answers to them, I have my answers to them, and so will every other know it all that has anything to say about the issue.

Actually the law has most of the answers for most of them. Why can't normal blackmail law be used? Why can't we use the existing age of consent? Why can't we use existing murder laws? Why must we treat prostitution as a special case? Why can't we use the laws that already exist?
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O'Riley will probably tell us that anybody who supports legalization is a terrorist while Al Frankin will finally be able to take his male prostitute out with him for a nice dinner instead of having to meet in seedy hotels.
I couldn't care less what most of the American MSM thinks about this or pretty much any other issue.

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This stuff will become very real if prostitution is legalized and will spend a lot of time through the legal system because nobody will agree on the answers to them.
There are already laws governing these things because they already ARE very real.
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Do you honestly believe that there won't be thousands or tens of thousands of families or more that will be torn apart because of this?
I don't see how more famillies are going to be torn apart if it becomes legal than if it remains illegal.
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All I'm saying is that in order to abolish the law against prostitution, they're going to erect hundreds of other laws.
And all I'm saying is that those laws you think are going to be written are already there. All you have to do is open your eyes and look. Do you thing they have different laws for each type of occupation? The law against assualting Cabbies, the law against assualting CEO's, the laws against not assualting telemarketers?
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I have no respect for a prostitute because they have no respect for themselves. Prostitutes are sub-human, soulless beings. I have more respect for pimps because at least they respect themselves.
I think you want to rethink that statement.
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Legitimizing prostitution will set the woman's lib movement back 50 years and nobody is going to stake their political career on it.
As we can see in the terribly violent and oppressive regime in the netherlands.
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No offence about the marriage thing Cit.
The only offence I take is that of Hypocrisy. Beyond that there is of course the rubbishing of my opinion because I'm 'not married', which makes about as much sense as the line "You're not American are you?".
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I can guarantee that your wife wouldn't agree with you.
Obviously I must be married. Evidently you've met my wife.



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Thursday, April 5, 2007 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you honestly believe that there won't be thousands or tens of thousands of families or more that will be torn apart because of this?



Adultery is adultery is adultery.

HOW will it be different if a spouse is cheating on his partner with a legal or an illegal prostitute?? Will men suddenly betray their wives more often than they are now, just because paying for sex is no longer illegal?

HOW is a family not already torn apart by that spouse's decision to cheat? Are you blaming the "third party" for the decision that someone else is making?

I'm seriously not seeing what difference there is supposed to be and I would be happy if you could give a concrete example of what you think would change.

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I have no respect for a prostitute because they have no respect for themselves. Prostitutes are sub-human, soulless beings. I have more respect for pimps because at least they respect themselves.



Are you making a difference there between women who are prostitutes against their inclination and those who are at peace with their job? Or is it because they are having sex for money?

Tell me, why do you think that all prostitutes have no self-respect? That they have no soul?

Is it about the sex or is it about something else?


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Legitimizing prostitution will set the woman's lib movement back 50 years and nobody is going to stake their political career on it.



Why is it going to set back feminism? You make sweeping statements, but I would love to hear something a little more specific. How is it going to set back feminism? What about it?



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I can guarantee that your wife wouldn't agree with you.



I know it's not addressed at me, obviously, but are you really so arrogant that you would claim to predict the opinion of any random woman?

Because every woman on Earth is really the same, right?

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