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Serenity Best Sci-fi movie ever

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UPDATED: Monday, April 9, 2007 04:33
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Monday, April 2, 2007 2:37 PM

I just found this on digg and wanted to make sure everyone saw it.

http://www.24dash.com/showbiz_slapdash/18729.htm

: The Top Ten:

1. Serenity (2005)

2. Star Wars (1977)

3. Blade Runner (1982)

4. Planet of the Apes (1968)

5. The Matrix (1999)

6. Alien (1979)

7. Forbidden Planet (1956)

8. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

9. The Terminator (1984)

10. Back to the Future (1985)

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Monday, April 2, 2007 2:54 PM

Exactly, that is how it is. Now lets get the top two spots.

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Monday, April 2, 2007 10:11 PM

I can hold with that list.

Chrisisall

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Monday, April 2, 2007 10:26 PM

Hard to take the list too seriously when it's got such a loyal group of dedicated fans voting time and again....

I love Serenity, but I just don't know about it being no. 1.

For one, I don't think it's been out long enough for proper perspecive. Also, it hasn't been long enough to see how much it influences other stories in the future.

Both Star Wars and Blade Runner have had a massive effect on the entire genre, and are both considered classics. Outside of this board, Serenity has not done either.

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Tuesday, April 3, 2007 1:40 AM

The thing is if we vote it to #1, people who haven't heard of it might say "Hmmmm I think I should check this out.".

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Tuesday, April 3, 2007 3:21 AM

That's a really valid concern. I thought about voting for 2001, because I think it's a work of brilliant filmmaking. Ultimately though, I very honestly voted for Serenity, because I really fundamentally care about these characters and their story.

Though of course we don't know how influential it might be, I think the influence of Firefly/Serenity will be telling the human stories in sci-fi, and the methods Joss used to do it. I think Battlestar Galactica is influenced by Firefly because even though it's a grander, more plot-driven story, it uses the same gritty camera work and focus on the effects of these stories on people in a way that, say, Voyager or the original Galactica did not.

Of course maybe they just came to the same conclusions at the same time and Firefly was just a little before. And there's no way to see what the influence really will be. But my vote was genuine, and I'm glad to see Serenity win, even though we all know it'd get trounced in any scientific poll.

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Tuesday, April 3, 2007 4:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

I love Serenity, but I just don't know about it being no. 1.

For one, I don't think it's been out long enough for proper perspecive. Also, it hasn't been long enough to see how much it influences other stories in the future.

Both Star Wars and Blade Runner have had a massive effect on the entire genre, and are both considered classics. Outside of this board, Serenity has not done either.


Storymark, you know I love you as a brother Browncoat, but the true yardstick of greatness lies not within the purview of generally percieved classics, but in objective reality. I didn't expect to like Serenity better than Blade Runner (my all-time fave until then), but it happened due to the STORY and CHARACTER Joss took care with.
Will it influence other stuff? Like Mrig said above, it already has.
And if anything, I like it better now than when I first saw it, just like Blade Runner before it.

And consider this: Blood Of Heroes, have you seen it? I consider it an absolute CLASSIC post-apocalyptic flick, up there with or surpassing Road Warrior, yet does it enjoy a popular classic status? It doesn't have to for me- it's just great.



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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 1:49 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And consider this: Blood Of Heroes, have you seen it?


Was that the one with Rutger Hauer & Joan Chen?
You're right! Excellent flick!

EDIT 4/6/07: Oh, hey! Didn't realize it was written & directed by David Webb Peoples!
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0672459/

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 4:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

I love Serenity, but I just don't know about it being no. 1.

For one, I don't think it's been out long enough for proper perspecive. Also, it hasn't been long enough to see how much it influences other stories in the future.

Both Star Wars and Blade Runner have had a massive effect on the entire genre, and are both considered classics. Outside of this board, Serenity has not done either.


Storymark, you know I love you as a brother Browncoat, but the true yardstick of greatness lies not within the purview of generally percieved classics, but in objective reality.



I disagree. I think for somthing to be considered a "classic" or the "best" of it's kind, there needs to be a significant ammount of time for perspective. There is no such thing as an instant classic, that's just hyperbole and enthusiasm.

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Wednesday, April 4, 2007 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I think for somthing to be considered a "classic" or the "best" of it's kind, there needs to be a significant ammount of time for perspective. There is no such thing as an instant classic, that's just hyperbole and enthusiasm.


SF movies I recognized as classics upon the first viewing that time has verified:
Planet Of The Apes
2001
Clockwork Orange
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Star Wars
Blade Runner

Classics that time will verify:
Solaris
Serenity
Children Of Men

The only time I was ever a victim of enthusiasm was Highlander; it never got the recognition I initially believed it would get...it got a cult-y status, though.


Instant Chrisisall, just add classics

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