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RE: Reagan the Hero- Iran/Contra; defend it if you can, NeoCon appologist morons!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:24 AM

Hey Chris.
Every time I start this thread I get a Windows Dialog box about someplace called voltaire.org, that doesn't have a Certificate of Authenticity.

Whass up wid dat?

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Hey Chris.
Every time I start this thread I get a Windows Dialog box about someplace called voltaire.org, that doesn't have a Certificate of Authenticity.

Whass up wid dat?


Hey NewOldBrownCoat.
I'm not Chris. But since I got an e-mail saying you replied I'll take a stab at an answer .

One of the pictures that PirateNews inlined in his post comes from voltaire.org. That website, for some reason, is the culprit for the dialogue box. I have to deny the certificate every time I load the thread. Tiresome.

I guess the solution would be to lobby PN to get rid of that particular image hotlink.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:57 PM

thanx for the word, Soup.
Wasn't exactly figurin' it was Chris' fault, I just addressed him because he started the thread and it Seems to happen to me while I'm looking at the first message.
I figured somebody peed in the pool.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:21 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
By the by, I totally understand why the right-wingers among us don't last long on these boards. They're called racists, bigots, and morons and shouted down without any real discussion taking place.


I look at it differently.

One of the things I and my friends liked to do in high school was to ask a guy, in the presence of his girlfriend, if he had ever masturbated. Most of the time the guy would say no. At which point the rest of us would call bullshit and pull a statistic out of our ass, "Ninety percent of guys have masturbated at least once in their life and the other ten percent are liars." With this new information, the vast majority of guys would then admit to having masturbated at least once (when all of us knew the frequency was probably much higher). What we were doing, intentionally, was busting a guy's balls in front of his girlfriend. What we were doing, unintentionally, was highlighting the difference between cultural beliefs (that masturbation was a deviant behavior) and reality (that the behavior itself is not deviant - the deviancy comes from when you choose to engage in that behavior - *eta: for example, I think we could all agree that masturbating publically is deviant behavior while I hope we could all agree that masturbating in your own home is not deviant behavior) and shifting people's perceptions.

I see the topic of racism in a similar light. I personally believe that we all have bigoted thoughts. How could we not, growing up in this country? If we refuse to admit to ourselves that we have the potential to be a bigot then we have to deny those thoughts. And when someone calls us on our bigoted statements we have to see it as an incorrect attack, regardless of the accuracy of the claims. I care very little about personal bigotry. Unless that person is in a position of authority. At which point the impact of their bigotry can be widespread discrimination. What I do care deeply about is discrimination that is built into the system.

How to shift the frame? I don't know.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:31 PM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

I figured somebody peed in the pool.

That was a boggle to me as well.

Haken, where's the chlorine?!?

PN better not float any logs...Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:14 PM

"We funded those MOTHER***KERS in Nicargua to cut off women's breasts after raping them..."

Are there any videos of this? I could use an update to my collection.........

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


Are there any videos of this? I could use an update to my collection.........

^----Hey everyone, look! A real troll!!

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:33 PM

Soup-"What I do care deeply about is discrimination that is built into the system."

I would only add that there is a case to be made that the liberals among us created the built in systematic racism that more people of color{as a percentage} have grown accustomed to rely on. I would say it is more of a socio-economic problem than racism though. Live in any city in the US and watch the 40oz. beers being consumed ad nauseam. Then watch motivation, parenting skills, and self respect go bye bye. Then you can listen to blame "Whitey" or "The man" while the blunts get passed.....PUFF PUFF PASS.......PUFF PUFF PASS........

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:43 PM

Remember what I said about Kaneman's supposed "little brother". Yeah. That.

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:50 PM

Enough with the axe throwin...

By all means Soup, don't let this derail ya, I am finding it both fascinating and informative.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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